Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN: "Boasts of the Rich and Famous and the World to Which They'll Take Us"

November 9, 2007 (#36)

ALAN WATT

"CUTTING THROUGH THE MATRIX"

LIVE ON RBN

Title Copyright Alan Watt November 9, 2007:

"BOASTS OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS

AND

THE WORLD TO WHICH THEY'LL TAKE US"
© Alan Watt November 9, 2007

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"Code of Silence" by Bruce Springsteen

There's a code of silence that we don't dare speak
There's a wall between us and a river so deep
And we keep pretending that there's nothing wrong
But there's a code of silence and it can't go on

Is the truth so elusive, so elusive as you can see
that it ain't enough baby
To bridge the distance between you and me
There's a list of grievance 100 miles long
There's a code of silence and it can't go on

Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through the Matrix on November 9th, 2007. Newcomers, look into the website cuttingthroughthematrix.com for lots of free downloadable material on the big players that have existed in our lifetime and many that have existed in previous generations who've all worked towards this global agenda and their Brave New World system. Look into alanwattsentientsentinel.eu where you can download transcripts in other tongues of Europe.

I'll start off tonight with my “shameless self-promotion.” It's utterly shameless in fact, but it's time I did it because I always forget and for those who haven't bought my books, my discs and the CDs, try giving it a shot because I have to keep going here and that's all I have to sell. I could be sitting back here writing and writing and not on the air and then making a big killing when I did come back on, but I choose to be on the air and saying what has to be said at this time because we're living in very, very bad times. We don't know how long we really have before all hell breaks loose, so to speak. We know that the government has been preparing for this for donkey's years and so I come on the air and try and bring you up to speed as quickly as possible. So much information but you have to cram it into so many short talks. For those who can help out, buy the books, buy the rest of the material, look into cuttingthroughthematrix.com and you can also donate money to me as well and it's all on the site just how to do it.

Tonight I'm going into the pooh-pooh stuff. The stuff that media pooh-poohs as conspiracy theories because we're taught to believe in coincidence theories. Everything is a coincidence and I'd like to debunk that part of it, because when you go into history, history is nothing but one conspiracy after another.

In ancient times and look at the history of any country. Britain is a good one. You'd find kings and queens often would have each other assassinated or their children would and that goes all the way back to ancient Rome and even Greece, because they breed psychopaths who crave power and bumping off their parents is nothing. Sometimes the parents bumped off their own children. That's how they hang on to power and these are psychopathic types and they always unfortunately seem to claw their way to the top. They also know down through the ages how to become the leaders of popular movements. They smell the wind. They know what the people want to hear and that's why after revolutions down through the ages we often end up with a worst system or just as bad as the one you just overthrew.

Look at all the countries in Latin America. Not that they've had much of a chance with the West always interfering in their affairs. However, you end up often simply with new tyrants who suddenly change all of their decisions and all of their theories and so on. Their ideologies go out the window as soon as they're in power. I think Woody Allen did a good movie on that and it was called "Bananas," and you saw the dictator who gets into power after overthrowing the last one and he comes up with all these silly laws as soon as he's in. I'm going to continue these conspiracy theories and coincidence theories after the following messages.

Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt. I don't know if I'm back on the air or not. I didn't hear anything and there's some problems back at the station I think. Tonight, I'm going to talk about a man who should know about conspiracies and that was Professor Carroll Quigley who wrote the book "Tragedy & Hope," and he was the historian for The Council on Foreign Relations and The Royal Institute for International Affairs. The Council on Foreign Relations is only the American branch of the same organization. On page 950, he says this about the creation, the set-up of this organization. He says:

"At the risk of some repetition, the story will be summarized here because the American branch of this organization (sometimes called the ("Eastern Establishment) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation. The Round Table Groups…"

Alan: Round Table Groups. These are the ones you'll hear after all UN conferences and all the big World Wildlife Fund conferences and all these characters have Round Table Groups and it's all part of the same structure.

"The Round Table Groups were semi-secret discussion and lobbying groups organized by Lionel Curtis, Philip Kerr who was (Lord Lothian), and (Sir) William S. Marris in 1908-1911. This was done on behalf of Lord Milner, the dominant Trustee of the Rhodes…"

Alan: That's Cecil Rhodes, where you get the Rhodes Scholarships for world government.

"…the Rhodes Trust in the two decades 1905-1925. The original purpose of these groups was to seek to federate the English-speaking world along lines laid down by Cecil Rhodes (1853…"

Alan: He died actually in 1902.

"…and William T. Stead who died in 1912, and the money for the organizational work came originally from the Rhodes Trust. By 1915 Round Table groups existed in seven countries, including England, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and a rather loosely organized group in the United States…"

Alan: He goes on to name all the main characters within the United States and even mentions all the newspapers they owned including the Christian Science Monitor and all the other big ones.

He says here; this is on page 951:

"The chief backbone of this organization grew up along the already existing financial cooperation running from the Morgan Bank in New York to a group of international financiers in London led by Lazard Brothers. Milner himself in 1901 had refused a fabulous offer, worth up to $100,000 a year, to become one of the three partners of the Morgan Bank in London, in succession to the younger…"

Alan: Then they go on to mention in the same book on the same page actually. By the end of World War I they had set-up their organization in every part of the British Commonwealth and the idea was to create front groups, many front groups with different names, all going back to The Royal Institute for International Affairs.

It would bring first of all the English speaking peoples of the world together under one complete system and then gradually under the guise of giving aid to other third world countries bring them and stall your own people over those third world countries and bring them into the same culture and give a world culture to everyone.

It was not done by people who were altruistic and fretted at night about poor starving children in far-off lands. The main members that this character mentions in his book were all multimillionaires. They were all part of the leading establishments and they still are. He also talks about the fact that they created so many movements, different movements the people joined, organizations, and led those movements that people thought they were either left wing or communist or far right wing or fascist. They controlled both sides of every dispute because their boys from The Royal Institute for International Affairs led those groups on both sides. Meanwhile, all the guys below are all haggling with each other and pointing fingers to that group over there. That's the dialectic in motion. Meanwhile all that time there was a third party working hard and pulling the strings of both sides and it's been like that for over 100 years.

This private organization that calls itself an institution is an institute. Look up the legal definitions of an institution. The Bank of Canada, which isn't a bank at all, it's called an institution. When the head of the Bank of Canada was asked to explain it, he says, no it's not really federal, it's more a kind of service that the people need. Quite the service, isn't it, to be brought into slavery through massive debt.

This is what The Royal Institute for International Affairs is composed of even today. It's the descendents of the same few hundred families, just a few hundred families. Both the male side and the female side of those families that are in all the prime positions across the whole planet and they've been working for over 100 years more openly than they ever did before because it did not start with them. The British Commonwealth idea was born, remember, in the 1500’s, back in the 16th century. John Dee talked about it, a global system to come where people would use English as the main tongue. He meant for all business and sure enough, English is the international language of business. Dee also talked about the terms the countries would be admitted into this free trading zone and he mentioned the term "most favored trading nation status" would be given to those who complied and basically adopted the same system.

These characters have been taking over the world gradually, you'll find from The Royal Institute for International Affairs, The Council on Foreign Relations. They also have the Trilateral Commission and some of the members at the top, the key technocrats at the top in our whole lifetime here and they're still going yet, the same guys are all over the place making deals and signing deals with countries. Private deals in some way but given official backing by governments on the other. These are people who are not elected by anybody and they get away with it because they represent the most powerful, as far as wealth goes, people on the planet. It's to do with wealth. The whole world revolves around this odd thing called money; and money demands and money commands. Those who have it rule the world and they're certainly doing it now.

They're bringing us into a brand new feudal type system, as Carroll Quigley says in his own book – in the same book, "Tragedy & Hope." The reason he got this book published – actually got it put out in the first place was because he thought he was an inner higher member of this organization and he thought the public would accept all the things they've been doing because it truly had been behind the latent histories of the United States and Britain and the whole Commonwealth of Britain at that time. They've been behind all the major wars and they also dangle, as I say, this idea of opposition before your eyes so you would attack all the wrong fronts. Fronts which they also controlled like “feints,” as they call it in boxing. A feint is where a boxer is going to hit with the right, and you go to defend yourself and you leave your left wide open, and he hits you right there and that's what they do. It's the same technique. You attack what you see is the obvious source of your malcontent and it's always the wrong one.

Meanwhile, these guys go sailing through the middle as the left battles the right and they're still doing it today. They've almost pulled off their while agenda. Now of course they're using the big sciences on us and members of this group and personally this is the top secret society on the planet because it's completely meshed, it's completely integrated with MI6 and the CIA. In the same book in fact, this man, Carroll Quigley, the historian for this group, because they have their personal historian, they don't want to lose all their records because one day they'll give monuments to each other for what they did and all the rest of it. They want someone to keep their records. He talks about how they've been behind all of this and how it fills in the blank spots in history and how their goal is to bring in a new type of feudal system with the CEOs of big international corporations basically creating a new feudal system because they'll be the only lobbying groups left on the planet, because you need money to have a lobbying group and these guys have the money. They're backed by the big boys with the money.

Quigley mentions that their place in England, Chatham House, their main headquarters, became the headquarters of the OSS during World War II. That became MI6 and the reason it became the headquarters is because the members that comprised MI6, MI5 and all the MI's that they have out there (I'm sure there is many, many more) were members of this same group. Before that, they had what they called the secret service. The secret service was a part of the establishment, a society which could overrule any court. They could overrule all police in the country in the British Commonwealth and they could get what they wanted by showing a little passport. They acted on behalf of the Crown. There was no questioning of it and these people were recruited in fact from the elite families themselves. They didn't allow the peasants into it.

It was the clique that had plundered the earth for centuries, lived off the people for centuries, making sure that the next hundred years or so was going to belong to them as well. The way you do that is to plan ahead a society with its whole system revolving around economics and all you have to do is own the banks basically; and what are the banks anyway? They're just people who pass out paper here and there and create money out of nothing. We know the whole story for those who go into the whole banking scam. It's a complete con job. So is debt as well. It's a complete con job. The world is run on IOU's. That's how the world is run. At one time it used to be just the big kings and queens who overindulged and had to borrow money from the banking boys. Now it's down to the person in the street. Back after the following messages.

Hi folks. Alan Watt back with Cutting Through the Matrix. I'm talking about Carroll Quigley and how he brought his book out thinking the public would accept the fact that for some generations the people had been manipulated heavily. Whole countries had been manipulated by very wealthy people using sometimes their own offspring at the head of big massive organizations, mainly through the foundations which they'd set-up as fronts for themselves and Quigley even goes through that in his book. He talks about the Reese Commission that looked into the scandals with the foundations and the power that they influenced over whole continents basically and it hasn't changed. These foundations were set-up as fronts for already existing very, very wealthy people and Professor Carroll Quigley thought, as I say, that the public were ready to accept this kind of almost totalitarian regime ruling over them. Maybe he wasn't so far off the mark because we know that 80-odd percent of the public, probably in all ages but definitely in the last couple of hundred years, have never participated in their own affairs. They leave it to those who rule over them. Whoever wins is who they follow and they just hope they can get their bread and water. Today it's electricity and televisions and video games and some beer, but nothing much has changed.

However, history is not changed by the bulk of the people. It's always changed by the few here and there that can eventually slap them out of their unconscious state and make them look at the world as it really is and try to appeal to their humanity. Their humanity, hopefully, is their survival link to the future. Most folk are so disconnected today from each other they don't really care and that's the truth. That's the sad truth. Again, it's a scientific type of conditioning we've gone through. I’ll just jump from the actual book "Tragedy & Hope" and Carroll Quigley to a statement made by Zbigniew Brzezinski who was right up there with presidents, being advisers of the NSA and all the rest of it. He's had all kinds of hats at the top, another member of the Trilateral Commission. This other group that also forms part of The Council on Foreign Relations; they have the same boss.

Zbigniew Brzezinski said in his own book, "Between Two Ages," he says, "The Technocratic Age is slowing designing an every day more controlled society. The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values…"

Alan: "Free from traditional values." You understand it's Brave New World there.

"…who will have no doubt in fulfilling their objectives by means of purged techniques with which they will influence the behavior of people and will control and watch the society in all details”. “… it will become possible to exert a practically permanent watch on each citizen of the world”.

Now these are the kind of statements – I'll repeat that for the hard of thinking in a minute, but these are the kind of statements that you imagine coming out of some ancient tyrant in Rome that thought he was a god because the people had to worship these tyrants as gods and they would say things like this, and here we have it written by the same people today. Maybe even the descendents for all we know and it's very possibly true. Either that or it's right out of a science fiction movie where The Blob says, ha-ha, I want to control the world. Here's people at the top in charge of military positions and high scientific warfare divisions boasting about the Technetronic Era and they'll use scalar type weaponry on the public and it's called "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars." The public will never know what's happening to them and we're being sprayed. We're seeing the pulsing in the sky at nights. They're using this stuff.

I'll repeat that for the hard of thinking:

" The Technocratic Age is slowing designing an every day more controlled society. The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values…"

Alan: In other words, there's no bonding with the people. There's no right and wrong with them. They have no traditional values.

And you think everything is just coincidence – coincidence theory? Read Brzezinski's book. Hear it from an arrogant psychopath yourself. Read his book and see what they say and look into Professor Carroll Quigley that didn't live too long after he published his book. He was getting too big for his boots. He thought he was too important.

Now I don't get money for promoting these books. Some of these, even front groups for Christians, are really publishing houses and they give you all these conspiracy books to read and they just simply republish stuff out-of-print and they make a killing on it. I don't do that but I do pick the books that at least have been available in the past in local libraries and all the rest of it and that's why I suggest people actually look for a lot of these books. Get them through inter-library loans. You'll find that if you go through the book searches on the internet very often, and I found this after I've talked about things like the book that was put out by The Club of Rome called "The First Global Revolution" where they discuss coming up with the idea to con the whole world about global warming so we'd all submit and surrender our wills to them and they could dominate us. On some of the searches that's been done by people I know on the internet they've found about 30 pages that have been taken out of the books since I talked about it, so get the real book. It's only about $0.75 used on some of these used book dealer’s stands. I'll be back with more about this after the following messages.

Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt back with Cutting Through the Matrix. I'm just trying to get through to people that these characters actually publish a lot of material, a lot of very boring reading generally but in amongst all that boring reading and that's why they do it that way. It's like the Old Testament that puts you to sleep and then you miss the good part – the part that really matters where the laws and all that stuff are. That's how they tuck stuff into their books. They lull you to sleep with boring politics and so on. At least you take it as being politics, but then they come out with these little quips where they're telling you something very important and moreover they're telling other members of their own societies just how on the mark they are. They're not afraid of anything. They're so confident they can pull all of this off and they almost have. This particular group that set up from the secret services in Britain other agencies like MI6, MI5, the CIA. They sent their own man over, Wild Bill Donovan to set up the CIA after World War II and it's completely meshed and integrated with what you think are your security systems.

They also make sure, as Quigley said in "The Anglo-American Establishment," that's the other book he wrote, the other major book. He says, it's only important to control those at the top of every political party. The rest of the lesser politicians are allowed to go through their usual stuff and compete for brownie points to get up the ladder, but at the top the same institutions make sure, they vet every major candidate that will be presented to you to vote for; so it's in the bag and that's how it's run. So simple and the public never see, never see that they're being deceived and democracy and Quigley even said the same thing. In democracy we don't vote for people to get people in. We vote the last bunch out; we're so sick of them.

This is how they play this game. They put up all these different front groups. So many front groups that they have everybody battling everybody else and never realizing there's only one puppet master at the top of this whole show and it's their own agency. They also have all the major media personnel you know that you even grow up with. That's why they hang on to these characters until they're about 80 years old and dropping off their chairs because you grow up with these main characters like Dan Rather and so on; and would daddy lie to you, as this guy stares at you eye to eye every night at 6 p.m. on the television. He would never lie to you, would he? Look at the associations they belong to and don't stop when you find one of them like the CIA. Keep going. You'll find the real one behind the CIA as well because they all have certain things in common and they're placed there. They're placed there for their skill and they're placed there for their ability to always, always be faithful to the organization they serve, even if it means telling lies and complete lies to the general public. That's how it's run and that's how the whole system has run.

If you want to know where even the secret services of Britain started, go back into the histories of the diplomatic corps of merry old England because as far back as we know, say the 16th century, John Dee was a spy for Queen Elizabeth I of England and he writes about that in his own books. They're still available in universities today these books. He was a spy. His title was 007 – his number, 007. 007, James Bond, of course, means he's bonded. He's sworn an oath. You take a bond in front of the bondsman; you swear an oath. That's where that comes from.

I think we have Phil from Maryland on the line. Are you there, Phil?

Phil: Hi Alan. It's Phil. I've been listening to you for about a year now and I was telling my wife you're the kind of guy I'd like to go fishing with and sit down and have a beer, but I think the jig is up for these folks. I think that there's more and more people talking about it and with the demise of mainstream media and the newspapers and with the lies of the internet and other forms of communication that we're on to them and we know what's going on now. I think there's a critical mass forming and that they know it.

Alan: Here's the thing. They foresaw this. They saw this before they gave us the internet and again Zbigniew Brzezinski talked and published works on this coming form. They didn't call it the internet at the time, the public hadn't even heard of home computers. He said a means of communication will be given to the general public which they'll think will be enabling them more freedom of thought, speech and communication, but actually in fact we'll be running it he said and it will be forming opinions along the stream of a global government. These guys are no dummies at the top and the biggest boys, the big players that own the media, the mainstream media are right now working their way in to own all the service et cetera that you're on on the internet. They want to control all that content as well, so never ever, ever make the mistake of thinking these guys – they have think tanks to go through every chess move before they start the first move.

Phil: Oh I know. I hear you and I don't want to fall into the trap of thinking that we've got the upper hand now. What I'm trying to say is that the realization that Neo Anderson had in the movie that everything was a construct and it wasn't real is what I have had months and months ago now, thanks to you and other folks. I think that a lot of the people and the public are having it as well.

Alan: It's spreading. There's no doubt it's spreading and I'm also aware of the other boys – and I'm certain of this to be honest. I truly believe this, all the spraying in the skies and all the rest of the stuff they're doing, I think they're trying to tranquilize the public as they bring us through these changes. I was just thinking the other day when they started spraying heavily around '98 across Canada really heavily and it's been pretty well daily since in most of the world. Do you realize how many years they must have had the big chemical companies working to produce millions and millions of tons of this stuff they're spraying in advance? They must have been doing it since the end of World War II.

Phil: I live in a flight path for Baltimore Washington International Airport and I look out the window in the morning and I show my wife, I said look at this. It looks like a tic-tac-toe board. I got up the other day. I couldn't believe the number of trails from horizon to horizon, north to south, when they take off out of BWI, I see them make their ascent. A lot of times there's two planes. One is following the other for some reason. I see that a lot and then on their low approaches, their low finals they're so low I can see the colors. Oh, that's Southwest, West Air or whoever. But I just cannot get over the amount of spraying that they're doing and then on a clear sky day you can see a normal contrail…

Alan: It disappears after a minute or two.

Phil: …and it doesn't look that bad.

Alan: Now NASA has put out a documentary for young children at school to see to try and convince them of the contrails look like, which means this is a long term agenda that they're going for such a young group.

Phil: What's the tipping point where – I have a couple of questions for you and one of them I want to ask you is along some spiritual lines, but where do you see the tipping point for this, Alan, because it can’t go on.

Alan: The tipping point will come when everyone's back is to the wall. That's when it comes and that's what the other side have always said in their history books, that when the rabble every do anything about it that's what they are is a rabble. An organized mob basically with no leaders and that's unfortunately – Zbigniew Brzezinski said it too when he was asked if he thought the people would ever rebel against the system. He says, "What do the people do?" He says, "You can beat them. You can starve them,” he says and do they turn and revolt? He says, No, they turn and eat their dead". That's what they think of the general public.

Phil: Yes it is. It really is.

Alan: It’s utter contempt and arrogance.

Phil: Do you think that's soon in the next five to 10 years?

Alan: It's already under way. I mean I'd like to get the medical data on the deaths that are caused by all this spraying because it's got to be accumulative in your system and I know just about everybody comes down with massive bronchitis often with these sprays.

Phil: You know I've often thought about it, you can't even take a video camera to the airport nowadays, but if you were to trace this stuff you would have to somehow something has to be added to the jet fuel.

Alan: It's not just commercial. These are military jets. I've got plenty of photographs of them. They’re white. They have four massive engines, long swept back wings and sometimes they will come low. I've seen one very low and their white no markings whatsoever on them. Now that means there's an international air force based somewhere.

Phil: I've seen those but I've only seen them very, very high. They climb pretty high coming out of the Baltimore Airport here and the contrails practically from horizon to horizon, the trail.

Alan: You have to be quick now, there's other callers.

Phil: What's our hope, Alan, after all this?

Alan: The hope is if the people get back their natural humanity and realize they've been put into separate little boxes, separate from everyone else and that's what governments said they'd do is to create a form of depersonalization. That's what they call it and you end up in your little box there playing on this electronic gizmo that's got you completely trapped. You're not dealing with real people; you’re in an ethereal world of electronics. It's the trick of the elect. The electronic trick and that's what they want. We've got to start communicating in person and meeting people and start being humane very, very fast and sharing the word because it's our humanity, it's our humanity we've got to get back. Our humaneness to each other we've got to get back. That's what's going to save us.

Phil: Okay. Thanks Alan.

Alan: Yes, it's a pleasure. I've got Larry from Minnesota. Are you there?

Larry: Hello. Hey Alan. I'm glad I got through. I've been waiting a while.

Alan: Yes, go ahead.

Larry: I've been following your work for a couple of years now. Got a lot of things I can comment on but I will keep it simple tonight. I remember about a year ago you did a show with Vyzygoth and you were talking about the more esoteric kind of supernatural side of this. You made some comments about a few personal experiences you've had, like when you were at Aleister Crowley's old house, then some of the testimony you've heard from some of these higher level freemasons and their odd ceremonies with red glowing eyes and what not. I just wondered if you could elaborate on that a little bit.

Alan: The thing is I've talked to some High Masons who all told me some of the higher ceremonies and these are above the 33rd degree and separate ones. Now this could all be a set-up of course. Everything can be, but separate ones from different parts, in fact, different countries, have told me the same ritual where people are admitted into a room. That particular degreed people or members are in that room. A candidate from the lower degree is brought up on to this kind of squared platform and a light shines down from the ceiling and envelopes him and the two people who escort him. They both said exactly the same thing. You can see those who escort them, their eyes are ruby red under the lights and once the guy takes the actual oath et cetera it turns to a red. Now that could be a hoax for the public or even for the ones who observe because the other guys play tricks amongst tricks within tricks on their own people. Who knows? They do love to bamboozle the public.

However, where we are today with all of this is and here is the strange phenomena. Madame Blavatsky said about theosophy, which is a female branch of Masonry, it was meant really for females to get them into this movement to work towards what they thought would be a better world, was actually a pre-designed system that they were going to work towards. Blavatsky said our mission (in the 1800’s) "our mission is to blend science and cross the barrier between science and spirit." It makes you wonder because today they can actually emulate all the things that we used to call poltergeist phenomenon. They can do it literally with high technology. Nick Begich showed machines that could put thoughts in your head from a distance line of sight, obsolete, on CBC television in Canada and they had tables of this equipment. Small things you could put in your pocket and point at someone and this was obsolete equipment. The CIA used it he said in the 1950’s. They've crossed the barrier where you can't tell what is supernatural or what is actually scientific because they can emulate both.

Larry: I was just at a Halloween party and it had a black light room and there was a mirror in there and everyone was noticing that their teeth and eyes were glowing, so there's all kinds of tricks one can use.

Alan: Yes and the tricks, even on their own members, if you were to witness that and you were a true believer, a real brother amongst the brothers and that was done on you you would believe what you saw as being supernatural. It could have all been done by gizmos and science, too; or contrary to that, they could even have put this equipment that make you hear something because they can give you the language that your brain understands, the auditory language, the electrolytic signals. I'm sure they can also give you hallucinations as well.

Larry: Yeah, no doubt.

Alan: That's how far they are with these sciences.

Larry: Have you had any personal experiences with the supernatural or anything odd?

Alan: Yes. I think most people have. It's something they can't explain and even then, when I have them, I say you know it's possible they can do this with science. Was it science? I'll never know. You'll never know.

Larry: I guess that's the ultimate question, right?

Alan: That's right. Then again, too, I think the answer to that could be what did you personally get out of it? Was it meaningful? That would be the other part that might answer part of that question. If you personally get something out of it you that you needed at that time; but if you're left with a question mark, you're left with more questions than answers.

Larry: Thanks a lot.

Alan: Bye now. I think we've got Peter on the line as well.

Peter: Yes, hi Alan.

Alan: Hello.

Peter: Hi. I'm in Toronto. I want to say hello to you. The markets are howling these days economically. You're talking about the Anglo-American conspiracy business. You mentioned it one time before that the Brits signed somewhere in 1945, '46 the United Nations to de-industrialize. Canada lost the [inaudible] in the '50’s. Probably that was the mark of our – the epitome of our [inaudible] in de-industrialization. When did it happen with the U.S.? Are we getting the gutting of the U.S. economy to such an extent that for example in Canada now the Canadian dollar went up. Some people are happy but businesses are going bankrupt because they can't sell their products anymore. At least according to the "Global and Mail" today, which just happens to be a business paper in Toronto. When did this come in the U.S.? Do you have a date a demarcation of when this started?

Alan: Yes. Hold on and I'll try and talk about that after the following break. Hi folks. Alan Watt back with Cutting Through the Matrix, and we're talking to Peter from Toronto who's mentioning the fact which is very, very true that the biggest trading partner that Canada has is the U.S. and no one's buying the Canadian produce right now because the Canadian dollar has gone up because the U.S. dollar is falling down. This is this ping-pong stuff that they do all the time, this water-leveling act that they play. People forget that all through the so-called Cold War Japan was the one that held the debt for the U.S. They sell off your debt, by the way, that means they sell you off with it too. Japan was the one who held it. Now it's China. China is holding the debt of the U.S. – the Communist Chinese country, because it never changed, supposedly it's still communist, is holding the debt of the prime fascist country and we're supposed to buy into all this and believe it. Who's kidding who, because the big banking boys created modern China. That's who was behind it all all along.

Read Bertrand Russell's books. He tells you about it. He was sent there in the '20’s to start teaching communism in the universities there. That's in his own memoirs. Peter, you're talking about when did the U.S. begin to de-industrialize?

Peter: Yes. Was there a point where from your research that you can say look it started there. Was there a definite date as for example it happened to the Brits? You were mentioning '45 signing this agreement the United Nation business to kill Britain; de-industrial Britain if I can put it that way.

Alan: Even in Britain, this is what they knew and the economists were all brought into it, the real economists, not these talking heads you get on television but the guys who advise the top boys. They always say that the economy is like a huge engine and even if you stop producing it will take 20 to 30 years for the impact to eventually hit and it will hit hard when it does. Britain was on its way out and sure enough, they started de-industrializing it at the end of World War II and by the '70’s that's when it really hit home to Britain. The average person at the bottom felt it. The U.S. is very, very similar. They started the ball rolling for de-industrialization about the late '60’s, beginning of the '70’s and then the big boys again with these Non-Governmental Organizations, members of the Trilateral and CFR groups working on behalf of the supposed governments signed all these deals towards NAFTA.

First it was the Free Trade Negotiations where they actually talked about a United Americas for the first time. That was back in the '80’s and they said – it was published in Canada. The new capital of the Americas they were thinking would be put in Montreal. They had to get a different one from Ottawa or from Washington, D.C. and so this was all discussed. We all see and hear the same news but people don't believe it when they're told and that's when they started really de-industrializing the U.S. fast, because once they had GATT signed they'd already done all their framework for the transference of big corporate factories over to China and signed all the deals. That took years and years of bureaucratic negotiations to set-up all of that.

Then the big corporations pulled out of the U.S. back in the '90’s, the early '90’s. They really started rolling out the corporations, and lo and behold, we find that afterwards that every corporation that left the shores of the U.S. going over to China were getting subsidized by the taxpayers of U.S. and Canada so that they could ship all their stuff over there, set up factories. We paid for it all and we pay their losses for the next 7 to 10 years. Can you believe that?

From Hamish and myself, from Ontario, Canada, it's good night and may your god or your gods go with you.

(Transcribed by Linda)