September 2, 2007


(Originally Aired Live on

"We The People Radio Network" - Sept. 2, 2007)





George:  Welcome to "The World Review Commentary." This is your host, George Butler broadcasting from Austin, Texas. We’re actually south of Austin, Texas. Our program is every Sunday morning between 10 a.m. and 12 a.m. This morning we have a very insightful guest. Alan Watt is his name and he can describe this matrix and we get caught up in and we get entangled by, and you can bet that he has one of the finest insights that I've ever encountered in the radio or the internet and in this world. Welcome to our program, Alan Watt.


Alan:  It's a pleasure to be on here.  


George:  I'll tell you. You relate your experiences from early childhood. Is that what happened, you starting waking up pretty early about the world in general?


Alan:  Yes, I did. I saw it all around me in fact growing up in Britain. The place that supposedly ran a good part of the globe, the empire and “the sun never set on the British Empire” as they say, and I wondered why pretty well everybody I knew was poor. If all this money was coming in and corporate had all these natural resources to plunder across the planet, how come only a few hundred families in London seemed to benefit and hold on to it down through the generations?  I thought about all the manpower, all the labor. Every hour of labor that had ever been done over the centuries, how come those who did all the labor had nothing?  It just didn't tally up to me, and so very early on I approached teachers and I was only five and six but I asked for an adult library card and they did have talks with me. Eventually I was approved, so I got into the adult libraries and the reference libraries in the big towns. They had old books there going back sometimes to the 1700’s for the reference library, and I read history as it was being made at the time and recorded at the time. Then, of course, back at school I was getting a completely different version of history taught to me. When I brought up the facts to the teachers, they were stumped because they themselves had been given a different form of history.  I realized that George Orwell (eventually, later on, I read his books) was quite correct that truth goes down the memory hole with every generation as they rewrite history and give you a new fiction for your reality that will be your life basically, where you’ll argue about all the basic problems, which are really a sideshow; and the politics itself is called "party politics" because that's what it is. It's a party. It's balloons and trumpets and whistles. It's a party. It's a sideshow for the public because that's how we're in fact run.


George:  I bet you had some interesting conversations on those classrooms when you were in school. There were some really lively confrontations. Tell us about one of those maybe that you can remember the best.


Alan:  What I didn't know at the time, until about a year later and this is when I was about 7, I was still studying and I found that the English educational system had mandated that all of the discordance parts of history to do with Scotland and Ireland were to be removed from the history books. Yet, here I was going into the reference libraries looking at the stuff written at the time and incredible slaughters that went on through those countries, mandated by London, and I could see why they'd removed it from the later books for a ‘harmony’ as they call it. Like you have ‘harmony’, and of course when I brought this up in the schools and I was giving them dates and massacres and slaughters and so on of the Scots and the Irish, the teachers were totally stunned. They hadn't been taught themselves and they never thought of going into the very old books to find out, so we had discussions in the classroom. I was up in front of the headmaster many, many times because I was giving out this information in class and I was going against what was the mandate of the educational authorities, which was to pacify the public and give them a fake history for harmony's sake.


George:  Boy you really – I tell you what. I guess there were always people whispering behind your back like, “oh he's a nut case” or “his history is all distorted.” Did you get some feedback from several friends from your community like that?


Alan:  I got not so much discordancy, I did get curiosity because some of the older counselors there, I remember meeting them and stopping me in the street and they'd start questioning me. At that time, of course, I didn't realize that even the structure I was living in was a gang-orientated structure, because all the respectable people in the area, the Catholics, the Protestant leaders and so on, all belonged to their own freemasonic associations, but the people at the top of those associations would stop me and quiz me and talk maybe for an hour or two sometimes. They never came down on me. They were curious as to what made my mind tick, basically.


George:  So they treated you fairly well in that community and they knew you were on a mission, on a crusade for truth, right? Is that how they began to see you in your community?


Alan:  Yes they did. I was certainly odd. Some of them were a bit scared of me because I never lost the arguments, even with the adults. I had the facts to back me up.


George:  You were unsettling then and they're in this little comfort zone. It's like a cocoon, is it not, maybe, where people fall into this comfort and they have jobs and they have worldviews and they have religions and they sort of lose sight of seeking the truth?


Alan:  They do. In fact that's one of the major things I stumbled across, was how all mammals are warned by one or more parents of those things they should be weary of, things that were dangerous to them.  I realized that humans were the same; and if your parents did not know truth or what you should be worried about, they can't pass on that information, so the young mammal, the child, grows up thinking the world that he's in is quite natural. It must have evolved that way. It never dawns on them that it's been planned that way and that's how simple it is. You're made to accept the world as is presented to you in every generation; and Lenin mentioned this as well. He said, “There are a thousand directions that society could go as a structure, but the public must not be allowed to know that. They must think that the one they're born into is the only natural one there is.”


George:  These world soccer's, I guess that could be described in that way into creating more of a collective community, collective political groups so that they can be more easily controlled. What are your thoughts on that?


Alan:  There's plenty evidence there. It’s published in fact by many of the think tanks. We're run by think tanks. There are sections in specialized think tanks that run all parts of our lives and culture. Even when our culture is changing, these are the guys that plan the changes including the music and the drama and lots of games we play on the Internet and so on. The Club of Rome was one of the biggest clubs formed for the Globalist Society, again, directed out of London and their job as a premiere think tank was to look to the future that they wanted to bring about and see how they could bring it around. They market their ideas to the lesser think tanks that then work out the problems in how to market right to the people’s minds. The Club of Rome in their own book written by the two founders, it's called "The First Global Revolution." 


They said that they had sought out a way to unify the world and that because of history, the only time that people will work together cohesively and unitedly is when there's war. Therefore, to get the people in a global society to obey the new system—which was also to takeover all resources and put them under the auspices of the United Nations: all food, all water et cetera under the United Nations—they said they would need a new enemy. They thought about all the tricks they could pull to convince the world and panic them to make them obey and go along with agenda. They thought about this space alien idea, would that work? Could they pay enough science fiction writers to scare us all about UFOs and so on? Then they hit upon the idea of using the weather as the big enemy and ultimately mankind himself is the enemy, and therefore, we'd have to change our whole way of living because they were altering the weather, so that's what they came up as an idea. It wasn't true but it was a good idea, and with enough publicity and marketing through big foundations and agencies and media, they could make the public believe it; and that's in their own book. They admit that openly. That's how simple it is. We are run by super think tanks all working for The Royal Institute for International Affairs in London, which its job is to bring about a global system.


George:  The CFR was created at the same time the RIIA by the British also?


Alan:  Yes. That's only the American branch. In the Commonwealth countries they're all called CFRs.


George:  I see. They even have some local like Chicago, I believe, Foreign Relations Council, and in the largest cities in America they have subgroups from the CFR out of New York.


Alan:  Yes, and they also have the other branch. See, all this goes back to the 1800’s when – the elite of Britain, it's called The Establishment: the big aristocratic families that have always had power. They've looted the planet for centuries and centuries and they have the histories of how to do it, how to control vast populations.


George:  Do you think that the British East India Company was a mechanism to consolidate capital into their hands?


Alan:  There's no doubt. In fact, you've got to understand that the British Diplomatic Corp literally has incredible archives of histories and formulas of how to, over time, maybe over two, three, four even five generations take over whole continents. That's what they're trained and these are archives. This is not available to the general public.


George:  How far back does their system of a world rule or world government in their minds, did they really start organizing in a concerted effort in the 1700’s or was it, like you said, the 1800’s basically?


Alan:  The 1500’s was the first open declaration because the court of Queen Elizabeth I was the first openly Rosicrucian court. Francis Drake and John Dee, Francis Bacon and all these guys were all members of the Rosicrucian Society, what we now call the freemasonic club.  John Dee and Francis Bacon came up with the idea of a term called "The British Empire", hadn’t been used before. They said we shall base this upon free trade, the idea being that since all laws revolve around trade and economics that the countries that adopt it will therefore become like us. They'll adopt our system and then we can control them from London. The countries that adopted fully the idea of free trade would be given "most favored nation status."  This in the 1500’s and we're hearing that term today because China was given it under the GATT treaty.


George:  The Star Chamber – does that figure into this, where it was outside the normal jurisprudence system in England? Is that sort of some of their brainchild's to create – it sounds like much of what we're talking about with this non-combatant terrorists and so forth here?


Alan:  It is in fact. You see in the British Empire you have different systems paralleling each other called governments and you have this odd thing call monarchy, so every policeman, every postal worker swears allegiance to the Queen. Anyone who takes a paycheck under the Crown swears allegiance to the Queen, not the country. Then you have the governments you see and then you have a private council that's unelected. It's called the Privy Council and then you have the clowns that we see.


George:  I see. The Prime Minister of Great Britain has to meet with the Queen weekly. Is that correct?


Alan:  Yes he does.


George:  Is the briefing required by the political system?


Alan:  Oh absolutely. As I say, too, it's not just him. It's the Privy Council and many big financials moguls belong to the Private Council or the Privy Council as it's called.


George:  There was a recent merger of the Rothschild interest of France and UK. What was that about? Do you have any insight into that or any information?


Alan:  It's just the amalgamation again, the further integration of the European Union where all the big financial banks really come under one. They have been for centuries, to be honest with you, and the Rothschild's didn't walk into to those countries and simply take over and get away with it. No one would get away with it if you robbed the monarchies. You'd be assassinated so quickly. They were brought in because they were the best bankers. They'd been trained from birth in Frankfurt for the job.


George:  So they were there the monarchs of bankers you know. The Olympians, are you familiar with that term? Is that used to describe these people?


Alan:  Yes. Prince Charles used that once or twice himself.


George:  So they call themselves the Olympians, and is it a godhead that they think they're gods?


Alan:  At old Mt. Olympus of the Greeks the profane, the ordinary people were not allowed up the mountain. It means the illumined enlightened ones, those who’ve moved up the mountain, same as Moses. It's an allegory.


George:  The profane are the masses and the workers and the peasants, right?


Alan:  Those who have swallowed reality as it's been presented to them.


George:  I see. Those are the profane that are not illuminated and enlightened according to what, a mystery school teaching?


Alan:  Absolutely.


George:  I see.


Alan:  You go back as far as Plato even, Plato wrote "The Republic," which is like a blueprint for the agenda. He was a member of the aristocracy. He explained his own inner beliefs, which was reincarnation of a superior type into superior families, always over and over again, and it was a utopia for the elite where they'd eventually bring around a world government, where they themselves would remain unaltered, being perfect already, but they would breed all the rest of the workers. They called them the "ITS" in "The Republic".  You're not a human. You're called an IT and you would be bred – specially selected with a mate, to be tall to pick apples, short to be a miner. You'd be purpose-bred for your job and that's the whole idea.


George:  This is like "Brave New World".


Alan:  It is Brave New World. It's never changed.


George:  That was Huxley’s Brave New World, right?


Alan:  Yes. Huxley and H.G. Wells, and all the big players read Huxley's book and they’re all for it because they all belong to the same think tanks. That's where the idea comes from.


George:  The Royal Society was right there at the center of some of these ideas.


Alan:  The Royal Society was the first freemasonic scientific society designed through secrecy and men who had sworn to secrecy to use science as the method to bring this all about.


George:  In other words, scientism became a new religion of these people – or their own system. It's a system of thought to rule through, right?


Alan:  It's a system to rule through, but they also used to couch it in the earlier centuries by saying, “we shall conquer by using and understanding the laws of nature.” That's what they meant.


George:  We're going to be coming back. We've got to take a short break here, Alan Watt, and we'll be back in just a few minutes, but thank you. This is getting interesting. We’ll continue on the other side. Thank you, sir.


Welcome back to World Review Commentary. This is your host George Butler and this morning Alan Watt is my distinguished guest. Welcome back, Alan.


Alan:  It's a pleasure to be here.


George:  Yes, we feel it an honor to have you. Could you give us your website and your information about what you have on there? We'd like to hear a little more in detail about you have on your website.


Alan:  Yes. It's and you can also go into the European site which is which has transcripts you can download in various languages of Europe. On the site you'll find there's hundreds of talks I've given on the histories of all of this, and some of it in fact is a technique in itself. As you're listening you're being deprogrammed gradually out of this very deep matrix, and I have a few things for sale that I've written and recorded and so on.


George:  What are those writings? Tell us about those books and the writings that you sell. Tell us about that.


Alan:  Yes. The books are written in a different method than usual. See, we're taught from birth that here's the information. Learn it. It's all explained to you. We do no thinking. Centuries ago they used to think as you read because you have to participate in the thoughts of the author. Today we're not. We’re downloaded by the books. It's all simple little bits and bites. Little short sentences and everything is spelled for us. There's no thinking involved. I use the Gestalt theory, where all the information that's scattered around in your subconscious as you read through that participates. Your subconscious will participate and it helps to deprogram you and suddenly you'll get it. You get that eureka moment and things come together for the first time. It's a way of shocking you out of the indoctrinations we've all had.


George:  That indoctrination in my sense I write about the delusional aspect of our mode of existence. Does that ring a bell with you?


Alan:  Oh yes. I mean it is a delusion. A delusion is a fixed false belief. That's the definition of it. We've all been taught these fixed false definitions and so you can get a whole country of people with the same education with fixed false beliefs and they think they're all sane because they bounce off their ideas of others and get the same replies, so if Joe over there thinks the same as I do, I must be sane. That's how we judge our sanity. I mean at one time, remember, a few centuries ago you'd have been an oddball if you said the world was round because everyone else out there had been taught it was flat.


George:  Yes, and the victors write the history, right?


Alan:  They always do. Always do.


George:  Then you're saying also that those that are in control of a society they reorder that history and where those teachings like governments schools, right? Would that be a way?


Alan:  In the 1800’s they realized they had to form a nucleus of a world government. The enemy of this would be the peoples and the cultures from the old system that wouldn’t want to join it, so they formed different specialized segments of bureaucracies to work on the peoples – Departments of Culture even. Why would they need a Department of Culture, paid by your government, if you the people were the culture? It was to update your culture.


George:  You know what I say? We have ‘in-culture-ation’ and then we have ‘in-cult-uration.’ 


Alan:  Yes. It's the same root word. Yes, you're right.


George:  They use culture to control you, but it's like they're creating a cult.


Alan:  It's your cult – culture.


George:  To cult your belief.


Alan:  Yes. To culture is to grow. In a Petri dish, you put in a bacterium in the Petri dish and watch it grow. That's called a culture and your culture is growing. You don't realize that. It's not growing by itself. It's directed.  Now for instance we have 50 years after the fact or the foundation of it we have exposure, declassified information coming out from governments letting us know now that all the riots, all the left-wing movements we saw during the '60’s, '70’s and '80’s that everyone was getting angry about were funded and paid for by a Department of Culture within the CIA itself, in cahoots with MI6 in England. That's now public knowledge. It's just been released.


George:  One of the aspects, the fact that I ran across it, I sort of want to ask you this question. You know the LSD, the MKULTRA and all that stuff that went on in those programs and so forth? In reading some of the facts and getting a little research done that those kind of hallucinogenic drugs create in a person a mystical type orientation and also an emphatic personality type. Does that meet some of your studies?


Alan:  Yes. In fact in the 1920’s they were putting a lot of our tax monies into, again, scientific research along certain lines. Now all scientific research lives on grants and so whatever they're moving towards it's heavily funded, which means it’s a mandate that they find out how to do it. That was the same for the birth control pill, genetic engineering; and back then it was to find ways of using drugs, and they looked at India big time because the Brahmans had ruled India for thousands of years and a lot of the people took drugs. There was opium. There was hashish and so on which kept them in a semi-fugue state – not quite conscious, not quite unconscious and they could work, but they could never figure things out or even care to figure things out and change their lives, so they tried to find ways.


They tried opium on the British and European populations in the 1800’s. They put it in every kind of mixture, cough mixture, everything. You could buy it freely but it didn't take with the people. They still had the bars and the beer and they preferred that, so they had to go and get sympathetic drugs and find a way to promote it. In the 1920’s they hoped to bring in world government right after the League of Nations was formed and they targeted the youth. They brought out the miniskirt. That was called the Charleston Era and they gave the Charleston dance and they brought out free sex for the first time. They made prohibition a sexy daring thing, because as you went into the covert bars with all the youth and you heard this new music called jazz, something that was created in the early Soviet Union along with the CIA while it was the precursor and the MI6 in Britain, and they gave this to the youth, but the side effect was unwanted pregnancies. They were not geared for it, and that's when they opened up the Big Boys Towns and so on to cope with the overdose and those that had massive venereal disease.


So they went back to the drawing board. They tried to bring in coke. Coke came in as well along with the covert booze, and even the Kennedy's were involved in the running of that along with the Bronfman's, all the very respectable families that are now sitting in Senates and so on. These guys made their money in running booze and cocaine in the 1920’s; and so it didn't go so well, so they revamped it and went back to the drawing board. They put all their money into finding ways to stop women conceiving and they put money into antibiotic research and then they came out with the same thing again. They called it pop music. Back to the miniskirt, free sex and so on, and you had the penicillin to deal with most, not all, most, at that time of the venereal disease problem.


George:  Are they creating addictive compulsive personality types that are addicted to a slew of differing drugs and ideas and permissivism too? 


Alan:  Yes, and you find when they brought out LSD, LSD was not made by little guys in laboratories in their cellars. These were made by the big pharmaceutical companies and there's an interesting book called "The Fifth Man."  It was to do with the so-called defectors from MI5 and 6 that went off to Russia. These were all members of aristocratic families who worked for the British security agencies. In that book "The Fifth Man”, they mention the fact that Lord Rothschild – it's also in "Spycatcher" by Peter Wright who worked for MI5 and 6 – they mentioned that Lord Victor Rothschild was also a scientist. He was a chemist and physicist and he eventually became in charge of the British security systems, all of them, and he was one of the first guys to experiment in Porton Downs military laboratory on the troops and on agents themselves with LSD, with the prospect of possibly using it on vast amounts of the population. This was all tested long before the public ever heard of it.


George:  Porton Down, a good portion of that has been privatized into private hands I understand.


Alan:  That's the new feudal system. You see all they're doing really is thumbing their noses and saying, “you paid for all, but it's really ours.” It always was.


George:  Right. We're going to be back in a second. Would you like to take some calls after we come back, after we return?


Alan:  Sure.


George:  Okay. The toll free number is 888-202-1984. Again, that's 888-202-1984. If you have unlimited long distance it's 512-646-1984. Welcome back to World Review Commentary. I'm your host George Butler. We have a distinguished guest this morning, Alan Watt. Welcome back, Alan.


Alan:  It's a pleasure.


George:  You really have built and built into this over the years and really you have a detail that I've never spoken to anyone with quite the detail. Actually you have – is it like you stand on the moon and look back at the earth and so oh my gosh? I mean you have an overall view. This system of thought, these systems of thinking and controlling, okay, where are we at today? This war on terrorism, is that a real war or is that part of the mechanisms?


Alan:  It's a traditional method. It's a war of terror. It's used down through history on vast populations when the elite have to make rapid changes towards a predetermined goal and they want the people cowed and afraid. When you're terribly afraid, most of them certainly go through and do whatever they’re told. They don't do much thinking because they're too confused. They go along and keep their heads down to obey and that's when you use brute force on the public. It's been used even from the days of Rome on the general population at times.


George:  I see. We’ve got open phones now, so anyone out there in the listening audience, feel free to call in. If you have an unlimited long distance phone line then you can call us at 512-646-1984.  Again, you can call in if you have unlimited long distance 512-646-1984. If you don't, call us toll free at 888-202-1984.  Again, that would be toll free number is 888-202-1984.


So this war on terrorism I mean it's manipulating – was it a trauma based programming that occurred coming out of that tragedy that people experienced? Would you call it a trauma? Do they visit the trauma on a deep level and they can sort of control people through that psyche that deep?


Alan:  Yes. In fact, that's what the big MKULTRA experiments were really for. It was to see if they could, through rapid repetition of a horror situation, influence the public into a state of shock; and that's why they started using race cars smashes and showing it on the news over and over and over again. That's called "psychic driving" and did the same thing with the Twin Towers. As soon as it happened, every television station on the planet went into action with the same footage, showing it over and over and over, and that was to put you into a state of shock so you're off balance. Your rationale goes out the window. Your questioning goes out the window and when they give you their version of it and start rushing you off to war against whoever they're ready to point the finger at, we go along automatically. You're in a state of shock and psychic driving that does that. The Project for the New American Century that has the members who are now in the government of the U.S., they published their agenda in the 1990’s don't forget, and they published that they'd have to take over first Afghanistan, followed by Iraq, then Iran, then Syria and they published that twice. They rewrote it in about '98 and republished it again under Wolfowitz, and then they said they needed something on a Pearl Harbor scale event to motivate the public to get public support behind them, and lo and behold, they win the jackpot in 2001. What a coincidence.


George:  This trauma that happens when that is occurring and they're seeing this and the American public and other people throughout the world, is it the most vivid after – soon after?  I mean the effect is the greatest right after, and then does it diminish in time because the memory or what? Is there an energy relationship in the mind there?


Alan:  It's a form of engram, an imprinting in the mind, and so everyone when you mention 9/11 will automatically see in their mind that plane going in, plane going in, plane going in, plane going in repetition. It's an engram. It’s an imprint that's fixed.


George:  Yes. Would the Manchurian Candidate type of techniques be similar to that, where they'll take someone and program them to do some act that they normally wouldn't do?


Alan:  Yes, and repetition, even there, is so vitally important until you have automatic obeyance, but more correctly you have automatic – the imprint will replay itself in your mind. It will click in just like a computer program and up comes that vivid scene and all the memories that are associated with the death, the tragedy, the crying people relatives, that's all part of the vision that's been imprinted in your mind.


George:  So it's a very insidious very evil system?


Alan:  Oh you better believe it.


George:  Evil is really a good enough word to describe some of what's going on.


Alan:  It isn’t. The English language now has been so minimalized. It's called "linguistic minimalization" as they've taken words out of the dictionary over the last couple of centuries. We don't have the terms to describe the horror anymore.


George:  You know you've delved into the word, the etymology and so forth. How about neuron-linguistic programming? Have you looked at that in any detail and what are your views on that? Tell us.


Alan:  Again, it’s to do with the neurons, the nervous system, and of course, linguistics, the language that you use, the vocabulary that you're given – we work like a computer. They know this and they knew this thousands of years ago. We work in a certain fashion. We have a language which was given to us. A good programmer, if you give him a problem for a computer that he's programmed, he knows the language of the computer. He knows the logic of the computer. He will know what answer the computer must give if you give him a question because he understands that through your logic, your particular conditional logic you will use the language that you're given and come to an automatic answer that you must come to; and so it's the science. We come to predetermined answers by the way the information is formatted to us by using the logic that we have; and it's a perfect science. It's been used for many, many centuries.


George:  Can you describe it as a scientific dictatorship that has been created and is ongoing?


Alan:  Yes. It wasn't just Aldous Huxley that talked about the scientific dictatorship. Again, you can go back to the old alchemists. They used alchemy for the same thing for science. They talked about an alchemic dictatorship then, and again, back to ancient Greece when the aristocracy wrote their books and different factions of them, like the one that Plato belonged to, talked about those who are super intelligent who could understand the workings of nature will eventually be rulers of the world by keeping the secrets secret from the public; and that's what we have today. All science that we are given today and it's available in the stores or what we're told as new is in fact obsolete to those at the top.


George:  Is the emotional state of our human nature a real problem?


Alan:  Yes it is because it's so well understood. We are the most studied species on the planet.


George:  So they use that knowledge against us manipulating us emotionally. Have the American public and the world peoples in general become more childlike? Do they want a child type person, childlike that they can manipulate through emotional appeals? Is that what they've created here?


Alan:  Yes. In the 1800’s, remember, people in the 1800’s and into the early 1900’s, they had 12 to 16 hour workdays. Global meetings were held in the 1800’s by the wealthy elite and the upper the very high middle classes that help them and the bureaucracies who were worried that if they took down the working hours for the average person, then the people would get up to mischief. They'd start communicating, talking and complaining and maybe do something.


George:  Okay Alan, we've got a couple of callers on the line. Audrey from Ohio, what is your question for Alan Watt?


Audrey:  Alan, I'm so pleased to be able to speak with you in reference to something you'd mentioned about culture. I have a grandmother from Scotland that comes to me and I believe that's where you're from. I just wonder if you hadn't noticed that certain people have sort of a predisposition to see tyranny in the making, to kind of see it beforehand. I come from Appalachian and southern people and Scottish people, and I'm always finding myself here in Ohio where people are much more shall we say ‘conditioned.’ They'll find my observations so very odd, but I'll sort of see it coming.


Alan:  It is true that certain peoples have more of an ability to break through, and the Celtic peoples definitely have more of that – you'll find more writers and so on that have the ability down through the centuries, to not only retain memory but also put things together. In those countries, you've got to remember, the Celtic countries – when the Indians were being herded off into reservations here, people in Scotland—it was the last white country in the world where people lived in clans. They still lived in tribes in the north, so they had histories which were oral and were passed down.


Audrey:  Yes. Thank you so much. I'm thoroughly enjoying your program.


George:  Audrey, thank you for calling. We're going to take a break here and thank you so much for your call. Call us again. Thank you, Audrey. Alan, we're going to break in a second. We’ll be right back and we have another caller on the line. We’ll pick that up.  Welcome back to World Review Commentary. I'm your host. We have a distinguished guest, Alan Watt. Welcome back, Alan.


Alan:  It's a pleasure.


George:  We've got a couple of callers on the line. One is from Canada and there's one from South Carolina. David from Canada, what is your question for Alan Watt?


David:  Thank you for taking my call, Alan. My eyes were just opened a few years ago in reference to some of these matters, and you certainly have the best historical perspective that I've heard from anyone. I have a question in reference to religion and the Bible. My understanding of scriptures of the Old Testament is that the archeological evidence points to the fact that these scriptures were written thousands of years ago. Now the Knights of the Crusades birthed the Knights of St. John's and Rosicrucians who became Masons and apparently, according to you, the Masons were the ones who either wrote the Bible or used the Bible to make us a man-made religion such as Christianity and they also made other ancient religions. My question is, if the scriptures are so old, or are they that old, and how did they use these to create for us a Christian religion?   I'll listen for your answer.


Alan:  It wasn't what we'd call Masons who wrote the Bible, although they did do the Geneva Bible and they wrote that in Geneva. That was the first Bible brought out with footnotes explaining deeper interpretations, whereas the King James that followed it was put out again for political purposes, because all Bibles are put out for political purposes and changes. King James told the team of writers, interpreters to make sure that they emphasize the obedience to the king who was put there by God. Every version has been done that way. Now we must remember ancient Rome was already an empire. It was an empire that allowed all religions inside that empire, and it became the Universal Church as it took all of the old religions into the church structure under a new form, a guise under the one, and it didn't let go of its old bureaucratic and legal system that brought it in with it. Therefore, from the very beginning, you had the problem of a new religion coupled with legalism from the very foundation, coming from an old empire system. The initial writings, remember, were written in Latin for Catholicism, which was used right up until fairly recently. It wasn't until about the 16, 1700’s, actually later, that Catholics could even get a version of the Bible, because only the priest was allowed to read it to them. They were not allowed to read their own Bible and so all the dogma that came along with Catholicism was taught and it's nowhere to be found in the actual writings in the Bible itself.


Freemasonry and Albert Pike stressed this. He says we could just as easily have used Nimrod the founder of our religion. They could have picked Brahma as the founder of our religion, but, because it was a western country that was already religionized under Christianity and various forms of Christianity, they those chose to use the Old Testament primarily as the foundations of their system because all the newcomers into freemasonry had had some indoctrination into it. Sure enough, you find in that Old Testament the key of Solomon bringing in Hiram – Hiram, very important name – the high ram, that’s Aries.


George:  Thank you for your call, David. We've got another caller from South Carolina. William from South Carolina, what is your question for Alan Watt?


William:  Yes. Good morning gentlemen, George and Alan Watt. Alan knows me and I spoke to him several times before. It's more of a statement more than it is a question actually. I've been following the teachings of Alan since 1998, and I became fully awakened to the scam that's been pulled on the world and the United States especially, and I came to a full awakening about two years ago. I just wanted to praise him for his hard efforts and his work that he does and he is a big help to a lot of people. I just wanted to mention the programming and conditioning is so powerful that I have spent the last two years in a small rural area that I live in, in South Carolina, trying to awaken people to the truth, but they're so far removed from it, they just can't accept it at all. I have found not one single human being in this part of the country that will even take the chance to study to realize that they've been lied to their entire lives to understand the situation that we're in.  I lost a best friend of mine that I've had all my entire life and tried – I spent 18 months trying to share this information with him and get him, to no avail at all. So I'm at the point now where it's just anybody asked a question you try and answer it the best you can, but we are in a sad state of affairs, as America has soon to waken up before it is actually just all together too late.  I'll hang on and let you all go ahead with the show. I just wanted to praise Alan for the hard work that he does. I'm glad to see him get more chances on the internet radio with programs with George Butler and like you all, and the question and answering session I think are the best for everybody I think.


George:  We're trying to get to the truth, William, and it's hard to do sometimes in this world. We certainly appreciate your contribution to the program and thank you for calling.


William:  You gentlemen have a good day and thank you very much.


George:  Thank you, William. Thank you. Well, Alan, that man there has been following you for a while, so you've got a following out there. How long have you been working on radio and things like that broadcasting?


Alan:  Almost ten years now.


George:  So there's more than one William out there I'm sure and he's running up to the same problem I guess you run up and run into. It's so insidiously deeply, what, engrained into people?


Alan:  You see this is what they came out with in London a long time ago.  Lord Bertrand Russell was the premiere promoter and experimenter with specialized schools to try and indoctrinate children, and he said in a book called "Education and the Good Life," it's a must get for people. He said that under a scientific indoctrination of education, he said, if we can get a child around the age of two in kindergarten, he said, it will be impossible for the parents to put parental input and pass on their culture to that child. They will be ignored by the child.  Now you have a national educational system which is also part of the international educational system, because they want a standardized world where everyone has had the same brainwashing.


George:  Wasn't it the Prussians that marched at the end of a bayonet their field hands to schools in the Prussian system?


Alan:  Yes, but not only that, I mean the other countries did it too. I mean I saw it going to school at one point.


George:  So forced education, forced programming, right?


Alan:  Forced by law, and I almost went to young offenders’ when I stopped going to school at one point and I told them I was learning nothing. It was all nonsense that I was learning and I had arguments with them until I went into the library and found out that Scotland hadn't actually ratified that. They just copied the English system and I got away with it, so they just bumped me up years ahead of where I should be until I started to get better education. They make it mandatory worldwide to have the same indoctrination and now they're doing the same with the internet under this – they always find a job for the boys, so Al Gore and different people said that they would leave ‘no child left behind.’ Every child must get a computer so that they can get the same indoctrination.


George:  Well, no child left unprogrammed, huh?


Alan:  That's it. That's exactly it.


George:  Is that a good motto?


Alan:  Yes, that's exactly what it is.


George:  That's what they ought to be saying, right?


Alan:  Yes it is.


George:  No child left unprogrammed.


Alan:  Before that, Britain mandated that everyone in Britain would have a television set before 1960, and they brought in thousands and millions of used sets under the DER Company, which is RED backwards. Britain loves red.


George:  Is there a receiver set over there in UK where you pay a tax every year to have a receiver or television?


Alan:  Yes. The British Broadcasting Corporation that's owned by the government – it's actually owned by those who own the government, The Establishment. In fact all of the BBC, I don't know if it's changed, but it used to only take people from Eaton to keep it in the upper classes. Every person who worked in the BBC, radio and television, had to come from Eaton because they did not trust the ‘villains’ as they called them, the “unwashed masses.”


George:  So Eaton had a programming of world systems and worldviews that was educated into those people and then they could go out and rebroadcast society. It's like a rebroadcast?


Alan:  Yes, and now they're sending people over to China and they run the Chinese International Broadcasting system. It's an exact clone of the BBC.


George:  Gosh. I mean it's minds. I describe a stream of light as an idea. I speak in terms of like Kirk Lewin talked about the field theory, and so I learned a great deal from him. He made the thing happen over here in – well, in Tavistock and America eventually, and they took his ideas and extrapolated those even into a further insidiously entangling system. It’s the light that surrounds us that inundates us and that light, what, conveys information into us like a computer, right? Then we sit here and we just take it in, but we're not discerning enough because we're conditioned, our previous predisposed programming or education system is obeying.


Alan:  It's a fact.


George:  We're going to come back after the top of the hour and we'll give out those numbers again. If you want to call and ask a question it's 888-202-1984 (toll free) or if you have an unlimited long distance line call us at 512-646-1984. Again, that's toll free at 888-202-1984 or at 512-646-1984. Thank you, Alan, and we'll pick you up after the top of the hour, but it's getting better. Hang in there listeners. We're going to get better and deeper into this. Thank you, Alan. Welcome back to World Review Commentary. Our guest this morning is Alan Watt. Welcome back, Alan.


Alan:  It's a pleasure to be here.


George:  I did not catch on to this world system like it is as early an age as you did, so I was programmed there all the first 20 something years of my life and I found it very difficult to come out. I call it coming out of the delusional mode, and so what advise could you give to people like myself that have been conditioned the first 20 or 30 years of their life that they can start – well, listening to people like you is one piece of advise, right, but what other solutions would they have to try coming out of that delusional state?


Alan:  It's a complete life change in a sense because you look at those around you differently. You realize they're still in the matrix. They're still living in their conditioning. They're going through human emotions, human actions, and then you start to see they're almost robotic. You'll hear them use little catch phrases that are programmed into them by the media and so on. Their topics all come from the media where there's no thinking to be done. It's all being done for you. That's what Zbigniew Brzezinski said in his own book. It was called "Between Two Ages." He said, "shortly the public will be unable to think for themselves" because they’re using scientific technique and he said, "they'll only be able to repeat that which they've been downloaded with on the previous night's news," and anywhere you go that's all you hear. It's almost what we would term "neutral polite conversation" and it's all fake because even the weather is fake and yet they'll repeat that. They don't even see the trails above their head as they're being sprayed everyday.


George:  I know. We’ve got Dwayne from Arkansas. Dwayne from Arkansas, what's your question for Alan Watt this morning?


Dwayne:  Yes, first I'd like to plug his website, very good website. My question is:  Alan, how much of this do you put on the Tavistock Institute as far as our programming?


Alan:  Tavistock was set-up – it's only one of many institutes. These guys cover every aspect of human behavior, psychology, culture and so on, and every country has got its own version of the Tavistock.  Tavistock was the premiere in Britain to start using all sciences and psychology, especially mass psychology and whole culture creation techniques, and they also have a think tank attached to them of "high scientific boffins" as they call themselves. They were already experimenting with putting wires in people’s brains in the 1930’s and trying to make them behave like robots, because that's where Aldous Huxley got his idea from "Brave New World" from the Tavistock Institute. He thought it was great if we could just control all human behavior, but not the elite themselves, like Charles Galton Darwin said (who also belonged to the Tavistock in the 1950’s) in his book "The Next Million Years."  He says, "We the elite will not alter ourselves physically but we'll alter the brain mechanisms et cetera of the general public and the hormonal levels will be under attack in the general public."  That's why you have all these problems today.


Dwayne:  Holy cow. So the Committee of 300 is pretty much what's behind all of what is hitting us today?


Alan:  The Committee of 300 is only one faction. These guys, again, if you go back into history you'll find they always set up committees – sometimes 50, 100. The G8, by the way, is a committee, an authorized committee. Lord Bertrand Russell led the Committee of 100 and their job was to be the radical extremists that would attack the American airbases in foreign countries and Britain to get it all publicized. The whole idea was to get publicity to make us all think we're going to get bombed and nuked at any minute. Give up all our rights and do what we're told – the same technique in a sense that they're using today of this war of terror.


Dwayne:  Oh gosh, unreal. It's awful scary.


Alan:  It's true.


George:  But it is the truth, and Alan believes that and I do too.


Dwayne:  I do too.


George:  To get to that point though, how did you get to the point where you started awakening to some of these truths that we're talking about? How were your travels to that point to that position of truth? How did you get there, Dwayne?


Dwayne:  I turned off my TV the day our local news channel’s lead story had something to do with Anna Nicole babies, so I turned the television off. I sat down at my computer and I didn't know really where I was heading, but, as it turns out, what I was seeking was the truth.


George:  Well that's great. I remember one time there was a television serial where there was a character in the serial that was having a baby out of wedlock, and I think someone criticized that that was a real person, and so the public criticized the real person criticizing the out of wedlock child. It's like fishing. Is that what you see out there, sort of fictionalized things, Alan?


Alan:  Yes. There's no doubt. A technique that they use is to show you in little bits and bites. That's the whole thing. All our information comes in bits and bites, little flashes we get, and see we get a horror in Iran or somewhere, or say Iraq where the Air Force mistakenly bombs a wedding party and kills them all, and then it flashes to some bit of trivia of some Hollywood starlet and her affair. I mean this is a creation of a psychological simulation of an LSD trip. It makes everything unreal. It blends in the horror with the fun, the fantasy, the bizarre, until logically you switch off. You're being scattered. You're being put into sort of a fugue state.


George:  Sort of a feeling state into a delusional fantasy, fictional state that can be manipulated.


Alan:  When they eventually start using these techniques on your neighbors and grabbing them out of their homes, like the KGB did in the middle of the night, it will all be unreal to you. You'll switch off your mind and turn on the telly and watch some comedy. This is all the technique of depersonalization.


George:  They got some – like a person living next door, well, they've got some of those anti-government nuts. That's great. They took them away. Get rid of them, right?


Alan:  Most folks actually, like in Russia, thought “they must have done something wrong.”


George:  Like the authority is right. Do you have any other questions?


Dwayne:  No, but I would like to say this. Once I did get away from the television and got onto the computer and starting searching out, it was like my brain turned on for the first time in my whole life and I just could not absorb more – I needed more input.


George:  You know, Dwayne, it's like these ideas that are false and lies that are used to control, it's like having a disease in the head. Do you know what I mean?


Dwayne:  I definitely do, George, sure.


George:  Well thank you very much Dwayne for your call. We've got another caller on the line, but thank you very much. We appreciate your call. Call us back again. Thank you, Dwayne. We've got Jerry from Oklahoma. Jerry, what question do you have for Alan Watt?


Jerry:  Good afternoon. I'm loving this. I'm a tractor-trailer driver. I'm right now on the Oklahoma turnpike. I listen to you with my air card with my laptop and I listen to your station, it’s great, it's wonderful. Here's my question. I am Sabbath believer and I believe in the Old Testament. Can he tell me if he thinks that the Old Testament was written earlier than what we all believe it is?


George:  Alan, did you get the question? He's talking about the Old Testament. Was it written at an earlier date than they're portraying it at today to us?


Alan:  No. Here's the thing. The Old Testament is a compilation of rules for those who are wise enough to understand the system and use it. All the big boys understand the rules are in that Old Testament. Now remember that in the days of Jesus, supposedly we're told, the only version they had in Jerusalem was written in Greek. Why wouldn't they have their own version in Hebrew? Then you find out supposedly it was written 200 or 300 years before that when they were in captivity in Babylon, and it was written by 72. It's always 72, multiples of 12s and so on, priests who lived in Egypt; and so here's a bunch of priests in Egypt writing their first Hebrew Bible written in Greek. It wasn't until much later that they got a version written in Hebrew. I mean it makes no sense whatsoever.


Jerry:  Are you saying they were Egyptian priests or were they Israelites?


Alan:  It was a compilation of the ancient, ancient brotherhoods that had run the world for thousands of years, even from Babylon's days and before. We're far, far older than they're telling us and with civilizations. Now they've dug up the Hurrians who lived and ran the trade groups before the Sumerians in 7,000 BC.  This technique, it’s much older.


Jerry:  So what you're saying is that Torah or the laws, commandments, were not given by the creator but by man?


Alan:  You'll find those same laws were taken from the "Egyptian Book of the Dead", which was actually called "The Book of Life".  It's the same laws from there.


George:  Well Jerry, thank you.


Jerry:  It's been very interesting. Can I give a suggestion, George, for a show?


George: What is that, Jerry?


Jerry:  The Mexican government and the CANAM highway, they have finally just approved this week in the Congress. They said drivers can come up, the Mexican truckers can come up here and they did it while most of the Congress was out, just like they did with the Federal Reserve.


George:  I've been fighting NAFTA with the AFL-CIO before they even enacted it, so I understand the issues around – I'm against that. I understand that.


Jerry:  They approved this. They were supposed to come up yesterday was the day they let them come in. Not yesterday, it was September 1st and that’s a real smack in the face for our Labor Day weekend, so I think it's something you should look into.


George:  Jerry, thank you very much for your call and call us back again some time. We appreciate your call. You bet you. There's a lot of issues out there in America today people are really upset about, Alan.


Alan:  I know; and even past me, up here in Canada, they’ve been working night and day, seven days a week, winter and summer, incredible, with a lot of snow, building this superhighway that's going all the way up to Sudbury, right down through Chicago; and just coincidentally, here's how the world is planned way in advance. The highway is called Highway 69, and it just happens to, eventually, it will be joined up with the Highway 69 that was sitting in the states for the last couple hundred of years.


George:  Perfect numbering. That wasn't planned, Alan, was it?


Alan:  Oh, no.


George:  No they wouldn't plan that. I mean these people are world-sorcery type people. They're geniuses at planning and using and manipulating people from what I can tell from my studies.


Alan:  Another thing people should check into is look into books on the border between Canada and the U.S., and look at the photographs, not on the main roads but off the roads. You’ll see the Masonic obelisks are spaced every few hundred yards along that border because that was the Masonic deal, and the man who was sent over from Britain after 1812 to finalize the border was a Rothschild. He was sent over to do it.


George:  My gosh. Our toll free number again – our lines are open for Alan Watt. 1-888-202-1984. Again that's 888-202-1984. You can call us. If you have an unlimited long distance phone call us at area code 512-646-1984. Again, if you have an unlimited landline or whatever, 512-646-1984. Give us a call if you have a question for Alan Watt. This plan, some people have characterized it as "the plan." Do you ever use that terminology at all?


Alan:  I use "the plan" and "the Agenda."  There's only one agenda. These are the guys who build nations, give you borders and then take them down when they've worked on you and sucked you dry enough.


George:  I got you. They're like pirates and they raise you and--


Alan:  They are pirates.


George:  They are pirates. Is that a good description?


Alan:  The Knights Templars who were ‘raised from the coffin,’ you're ‘born again’, that's what it means. That's why George Bush, Sr. and George Bush said, if you asked if I was born again, when he was asked as a Christian, he said, if I was born again, yes, I am.  He meant he had been, because at Yale University they come out of the coffin. Other lodges use the pirate flag, the Jolly Roger, as their Rod of War from the French La Guerre, war, Roger; and that was the Knights Templars’ flag. The Knights Templars were the first international bankers who substituted paper for coin.


George:  Oh, my gosh. In other words, that fiat currency goes way back, doesn't it?


Alan:  It's a con game down through the ages, and even before them, the ancient bankers could give you notes as well that you could redeem on the other end.


George:  I see the monopoly of that money creation. Here's the way I sort of lay it out a little bit, is that we have an occult system that operates from the top in using world sorcery and they control the money creation system, so in controlling people’s minds through the occult and mystic schools, then they control your pocketbook, so they've sort of got it locked in like that. What do you think about that assertion?


Alan:  There's no doubt. The whole system has run on money in all of its forms. It doesn't matter what it is. Whoever runs the money, as the third party, they come between two people who are doing barter. Here's a sack of wheat for a sack of oats. The third party, then, once it gets you to accept this money as a substitute, then will decide on its purchasing power as time goes on, until it's worth nothing and you are then owned by him; and along with that comes taxation. Along with that comes standing armies which they can employ. You can't keep an army together to go off and plunder if they don't get paid. They'd go home eventually.


George:  One person once said they use armies to collect the dead. Does that sound right?


Alan:  Yes. War is an ‘extension of diplomacy,’ as they say, because all business is war. That's all it is. All business, even between two small shop owners competing, is a form of warfare; and unless we get over this struggling that we have, we're all doomed. The elite know and they knew they would bring us to this stage we're at today where the system is dysfunctional. They made it so. They destroyed the old system, which was enforced by them too, and that was even marriage and so on. That's a fact, marriage was enforced that the wife had no rights. She had no property and she couldn't leave the husband, and that was enforced by the church for almost 1,800 years. Now that that system has served its purpose, we're post-industrial, post all the rest of it, post-agricultural, they now decided to reverse it and destroy marriage because now it becomes a problem, because if families stick together, then the government can't come right down and dictate to you face to face. You have a family around you, a small tribe, and they said 100 years ago they'd have to destroy the family because it's the last vestige of the tribe.


George:  The Scots had strong families, didn't they? They had very loving and strong families and the English didn't like that. Is that one of the problems the English had with the Scots?


Alan:  It was London. They said they'd have to destroy the Scottish culture completely, any tribe.


George:  Okay. We're going to be coming back after our break. Thank you very much and hold out there. Hold on listeners. We’re going to get into this deeper. Welcome back to World Review Commentary. I'm your host George Butler, and our guest today is a fine person and he's really searching for truth and he's getting as close to that as anyone. Alan Watt, welcome back to our program.


Alan:  Happy to be here.


George:  In our final segment here, some concluding ideas can you put together for our listening audience? What advice and your own little insights, some of your final statements you want to make today in this final segment?


Alan:  You have to realize that you can't wake everybody up. It's never happened in history in fact. History has been altered off course once in a while by a few people who are able to spot those who are trying to wake up and feed them gradually. That's the key to it, gradual information. You're dealing with someone in the old world, the only mentality, the complete conditioning system, and here you are like an alien from outer space telling them stuff they've never heard before, so you've got to feed it to them in small doses. Let them do the asking. Don’t go overboard with it. Try and stick on one topic at a time, because they know at the top – and here's the problem the psychological warfare. At Tavistock they said it’s not important who gives the terror and fear and psychological warfare to the public. If it's the mainstream media or people who come against the mainstream media, it's opposition as long as the public gets the terror news and all the fear, it psychologically breaks them down and they become immobilized with it all.


The average person can only handle two – ultimately, in some, four main problems or crisis at one time or they'll breakdown, so you've got to just take particular topics. Know how to put it across. Don't go overboard. Let them come back to you with another topic, instead of unloading all that you've found out onto them at once. You'll freak them out and they'll close down. So there's a technique to it.


George:  Do you think though that – from my readings and my studies they rely – these people that are programming allowing our own imagination to cement and bond those in acceptance of those ideas they're using to control us. Does that meet with some of your ideas?


Alan:  Absolutely. They understand how the average person thinks. As I say, we're the most studied species on the planet. They know our logic. They know what information they're making sure that we get from mainstream everyday, and so they know how to manipulate the minds of us. We've got to reclaim our mind. It's yours. That's your only real sovereign right is your own mind. The person who takes your mind is the ultimate rapist; and that's what a therapist is, is called "The Rapist" you see. They give us therapists to substitute for our own logic.


George:  So everyone has an ulterior motive. Actually, we all have selfish interests we're promoting, whether we’re fully conscience of it or not.


Alan:  Most people never get fully conscience. [] What they try to do is to try to hold on to some part of the old system; and I keep telling them, what part of the Babylonian Tower that's held together with corruption scotch tape and super glue do you want to keep? It’s torturing here. The builders of the world, the builders of the ages, they build society as a structure. That's what it really means in Masonry; and when that structure has fulfilled its purpose, they knock it down completely and they bring order out of chaos with the new one. Therefore, as they're bringing down – and that's what the Twin Towers symbolized, the Jachin and Boaz, the male and the female, the two systems, bringing down the old and they're bringing up the new, with a new symbology for the new era.


George:  These are very, very deep symbolic systems that they create, are they not, just like you described the Twin Towers?


Alan:  They are.


George:  The destruction and rebirth of a New World Order, right?


Alan:  And a new man and woman, a new type. That's the key to it because it's going to be the Huxlian type that they want, the purpose-made design, the ideal design, that's another meaning of ID. That's what George Bush, Sr. said: it was great idea.


George:  Do the mystery schools teach that human nature is evolving to godhead? Is that some of their teachings?


Alan:  They teach that only there, with the correct inbreeding and selection of a mate, can you achieve it. For the rest of the public it's called "the profane."  That's why you're called "commoners" in Europe, you see, and we're all commoners. We all marry in common. We don't have our mates selected for specific qualities; and so it's a eugenics program. They truly are eugenicists, always have been. Start off with the Old Testament and all you're seeing is who begat whom begat whom, because it's all arranged marriages. It was a eugenics program. That's what it really means. Their system is a eugenics program, and all the high Masons are introduced to their wives, just like Prince Charles had has wife picked for him. He didn't pick her. It's a eugenics program. We've got to understand this.


George:  So that took place over in what, in England, and then America, and then it went to Nazi Germany later, the eugenics ideas and movements?


Alan:  It was all branches of the same thing, and Blavatsky brought it out too. It's very Hinduistic in style. In fact, Hinduism is the closest parallel you'll find to all the mystery religions. It encompasses them all; and the high Brahmanistical structure again is a eugenics system. They have their mates picked for them. They marry wealth. They marry a certain personality with cunning, a psychopathic type that sees through things. They're very street-wise and they know how to manipulate. The art of manipulation is very important to them; they're born with it.  You can breed traits in or out of a human being the same way you can with a domesticated dog and Plato talked about that.  That's what he gave as the reason that they were so bright in his day, the aristocracy, because they had selective breeding for certain traits and they could be ruthless when required regarding the general people.


George:  So in essence, we have to become more street-smart like they are and realize that they're that way, and also world smart about these systems that are acting through us and these institutions. Is that right?


Alan:  We have to realize that they’re psychopaths, and that's the key to it. They are psychopaths by nature. They breed each other with those particular traits. It's an ongoing thing. Psychopaths look out for their own personal survival above everything else. They have no human attachment to ordinary people whatsoever, but they're very good at manipulation and acting. They're born actors. That's why politicians unfortunately gravitate into it. They're psychopathic in nature. They gravitate towards power and they like people to cow tow and bow to them and they love applause. They need applause in fact. They are superego.


George:  Do they use both high-minded ideas and then very dark evil ideas sort of across the board? Do they use all kinds of differing ideas?


Alan:  Absolutely. You've got to understand even your language is saturated with occultic meanings. They gave us the English language in the 1500’s. They revamped it and created it and they used Shakespeare to introduce thousands of words into the language and the King James Bible. That was also how they got it out to the people. Before that, people spoke a mixture, Saxon-German in England; and even the word "senate" that everybody thinks, well what's the senate? They don't think what it means. That comes from the chessboard of ancient Egypt. That’s what it was, a chessboard.


George:  My gosh, when you start looking back at this it's like a web, a network. Give us some little ideas now. I see it as a network that networks across institutions. That's why we can't see it that well.


Alan:  Absolutely. Again, if your parents don't know, like a mammal to warn you of something, the child will think everything is quite natural and he'll never question anything in it. That's the simple key to it. The parental and the wisdom that people used to have to pass on is gone in most people. In fact, they destroyed the bond between generations. That was an imperative according to Wells, who was trained by Aldous Huxley's grandfather Sir Thomas Huxley and picked for his job as a propagandist.


George:  So parents unintentionally just create into their children – evoke into them or nurture into them the very system that they're enslaved by and not knowing of, right?


Alan:  Absolutely.


George:  In most cases.


Alan:  That's the meaning of behind Adam choosing the words for the animals and the plants and so on. When a child asks you "what is that?" and you give him a simple straight answer, you're in the dark. You don't know yourself. You've never questioned the word, that child then will then say, “Oh it's a tree.” He'll never question it any further, what it means or anything else, or money even; here’s money. All he knows is that he buys his ice cream with it and he's quite happy.


George:  Right, and everybody goes home. I'll tell you they just sort of die like that in ignorance, don't they, sometimes?


Alan:  They do. Sadly they do. It’s like I always envision a huge pyramid of the generations going up of corpses.


George:  They just die; they're born into ignorance and die back to ignorance. Well, Alan Watt, thank you for your interview this morning and your insights. Not everyone will agree with you, but I’ll tell you what. I believe you're right on, myself.


Alan:  If they check into it, they'll find it's true.


George:  They will. Thank you very much Alan Watt and we'll have you back sometime. We’d love to talk to you.


Alan:  Sure.



(Transcribed by Linda)