Sept. 22, 2009

Alan Watt on The Patrick Timpone Show

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Patrick Timpone: This morning, a gentleman who we enjoy talking with.  He's a deep thinker, a deep researcher into all things geopolitical and spiritual matters.  His name is Alan Watt.  His main website is  Mr. Watt hangs out in Ontario, Canada.  Alan Watt, how are you this morning?  Good Morning. 


Alan Watt: Good Morning.  Yeah, I'm not bad at all. 


Patrick: Well, good.  And is winter beginning to set in up there yet?


Alan: I sometimes wonder if winter ever left.  June and July it rained every single day, as it did last year too, but we get a lot of aerial spraying up here by aircraft, zigzagging across the sky for weather manipulation, so it goes hand in glove with it basically. 


Patrick: You're not experiencing any global warming up there or anything?


Alan: No.  It's actually the opposite.  It's definitely the cooling phase I'm going through here.


Patrick: Yeah, we talked to Mitch Batros and you know he said the last two years the earth has actually been cooling.


Alan: Well, now they've come out at the top, the ones who are pushing for this.  You see, the whole earth changes idea, is to bring the planet under control of an authority.  That's really what it's for.  The Club of Rome is a big think tank that all the other lesser think tanks use.  And The Club of Rome, back in the '70s came up with the idea of how to unite the planet under one central government, the United Nations.  And they said that we only obey authority and allow freedoms to be taken away under the guise of warfare.  We all work together towards a common cause.  So they'd have to find a war scenario.  And in a global society, when you run out of enemies, where do you find the enemies?  Well, man would be against the planet.  Now, they wrote this in their own book, the two founders of The Club of Rome, who belong to all the big societies, like the Royal Institute on International Affairs, CFR.  They said, they came up with the idea of global warming so man was the enemy of the planet, so that would fit the bill.  That's the words they used.  That would fit the bill. 


Patrick: So, that's so interesting, so as they create a brand name like terrorism or whatever, to have something to fight, then they can create an enemy in the planet.  Then you have something to fight.


Alan: So there's too many people, we're hearing this now.  There's too many people.  We've got to have an authority to decide who can breed and who can't breed.  It's the old eugenics program, going way back to Darwin and then followed by Nietzsche and Superman and the Fabian Society. 


Patrick: And who are these Club of Rome people?


Alan: Club of Rome, they call themselves the premier think tank.  They come up with the ideas to steer and guide the future and advise governments.  So, they look ahead, fifty, a hundred, two hundred years, even longer.  And they hit on the ideas.  Then they pass it on to the other think tanks and round table societies, who have to implement the ways of getting this into the people's minds, through media, propaganda, movies, novels, and so on.


Patrick: How do they, Alan Watt, where do they get all of their power or influence at the Club of Rome?


Alan: Well, you'll find that in the world, there's maybe about a dozen, maximum, major foundations, who fund hundreds and hundreds of other foundations as front groups.  The foundations, they call themselves philanthropists, philanthropic groups.  And they're run by the richest people on the planet, like the Rockefellers, you know the Ford Foundation, Carnegie, is all really run by the Rockefellers now.  They took it over.  You'll find that in Britain too, you have the Rothschilds, the bankers in other words.  They call themselves the parallel government.  And Professor Carroll Quigley talked about it in Tragedy and Hope.  He said that democracy, this is what the Club of Rome said too, that democracy was too cumbersome.  The people have too many demands.  There's too many conflicting, antagonistic parties.  And therefore they'd have to bypass democracy by a parallel government, made up of ex-prime ministers, ex-presidents across the world, who all know each other, and they join the club when they leave the presidency.  They join this club, like Bill Clinton.  And Margaret Thatcher talked about it.  She said, I now belong to the parallel government, which is the real government.  And they get the job done.  And the idea, as the Club of Rome said, is to bring us through a post-democratic system, into a collectivist society.  Now, collectivism is a nice term for what we saw in the Soviet Union, where you have a central body at the top, that is responsible for doling out and dishing out the food, to the public.  Your life is run from birth to grave, basically by central committees, appointed from the top.  That's the kind of society.  They call it a tidy society.  They don't like this, having rights, and free will idea.  It's just too untidy for them.


Patrick: Yeah.  Too untidy, right?


Alan: Yes.


Patrick: Well, can one say then that we really have, let's see, a New World Order, or I don't know, whatever that means, or a One World Government now, if this parallel government has been around for some time and kind of running the show.  They've chosen presidents for a very long time, haven't they?


Alan: They've chosen them.  According to Professor Quigley, who was the historian for the Council on Foreign Relations.


Patrick: Oh, he was.


Alan: He was the official historian, because they update their own records.  And it was interesting that it was Zimmerman, who introduced him.  Zimmerman was the historian before him.  Zimmerman was the right-hand man of Winston Churchill.  He was also a World Communist.  And he handed it over to Quigley.  Quigley updated all their records.  He fills in all the reasons for the wars, etc, in history for the last couple of hundred years, which is left out of the school books.  And he also said that this parallel government, in the 1960s, when he wrote his book, Tragedy and Hope, and the other book, the Anglo-American Establishment.  You have to get both, really.  He said this parallel government had already picked the presidents of all parties, picked the presidents of the United States for the last 60 years.  So you're going back into the early 1900s. 


Patrick: Oh, I see.  If you'd like to join the show, you're certainly welcome to do so, with Alan Watt.  It is 888-663-6386. Email:  So these twelve foundations, Alan Watt that really are, they're the centerpiece of this parallel government, can we say?  And can you tell us some of those?  And would we recognize their names? 


Alan: Yes, you can do a search.  I have it on my website in my archives section, a list of all the major foundations.  Now most of them are simply fronts, specialized fronts, for the dozen or so major foundations, the big ones, the multi-trillion dollar ones, who fund them for specialized purposes.  For instance, some will deal socially with social topics on a certain area, a specific area.  One of their big things for a long time has been for what they call family planning across the planet, which is really depopulation.  That's always been part of it, because the elite have always been terrified that too many of what they think are the lesser types will breed and outbreed the elite types.  This is stated in their own records if you go back far enough, into the eugenics society.  There's lots of information on that.  And they've never changed their goal.  In fact, old Rockefeller is 94, and he's still going around the world, and he's up on youtube giving talks about the need to drastically depopulate across the planet.  And that's always been part of their agenda.


Patrick: So the idea of the depopulation or the eugenics idea is that they don't want the unwashed masses to, just to get too feisty or too big in stature to maybe overturn them someday.


Alan: Definitely.  They've always been terrified of losing their power, their control, so the best way to do it, is simply to depopulate and keep them down to a manageable level, but they're going beyond that.  They want to bring us into what they call a transhumanist society, then post-human, where they can literally clone better types of servants and workers, and that's why our tax money, apart from bailing out the bankers, is also going into this tremendous research into cloning.  It's not because they want a fit, happy population that's very healthy.  It's because they want a healthy population that are good slaves basically, and can't think for themselves.


Patrick: But I'm curious about the ultimate goal or motive behind, say, owning all the gold, having palatial places, and total control of the entire world with just kind of drone, you know, drones, Alan Watt, walking around.  What would be the satisfaction or pleasure or accomplishment in that?  It doesn't, somehow that doesn't make sense to me.  I mean, do you know what I'm saying?  It's like, why would that be, why would that be pleasurable to people?


Alan: Well, you're not dealing with just ordinary people that you know and meet and so on.  You're dealing with people who are brought up from birth with a completely different world view.  They see things from a completely different side.  They're in on the know from a very early age.  They know they're different, number one.  They know that they have incredible power.  They know that they can never tell the ordinary people the scams that are pulled over the ordinary people in order to control them and move them into the next stage or phase of the Great Society, as they sometimes term it.  They can't come out and tell us outright that they want a lot of us just to simply stop breeding.  They have published in their own books, especially back in the early 1900s, that they want the right to say who will breed and who will not breed.  That's always been a big thing.


Patrick: So, can we say then, are you suggesting that there's a deeper kind of, let's use the term, spiritual ideal with maybe secret societies and where they're doing this because they're thinking at the long term that this is going to fulfill something for them in the future, maybe in the next life or something, and this is their job, and they've been chosen to do this.  That kind of thing?


Alan: There's no doubt that in these families, tradition is something they often couch it in.  They have their family traditions.  And they're tremendously proud of their ancestry.  If you go into the nobility of Britain, and you look at the genealogies, the standard genealogies of the elite of even the ancient world of selective, very special mating.  They mate with power.  They don't mate with someone they simply fall head over heels with, that's the last thing they think about.


Patrick: Like in the days of kings and queens and stuff. 


Alan: Yes.  So you marry power and what you're doing is marrying certain traits.  Now, people in ancient times who got to the top and slaughtered and took over with their families, and were put up to be kings or princes or whatever, they tend to be very ruthless people.  Very cunning, but ruthless.  In other words, so they're psychopathic by nature.  And if you go into the religions, the ancient religions too, they're basically pantheistic in a sense.  And when you understand pantheism, the whole idea...


Patrick: Many gods?  Is that what that means, many gods?


Alan: What it is in pantheism, and it's couched in the mysteries.  All the mysteries down through the ages are the same mystery.  It's couched.  You'll get a good example in for instance, Egypt, where they had all these different deities.  In other words you have specialized deities for specialized functions.  You'll find this even in say the Old Testament, if you go into the Old Testament as well.  You get many, many clues of different deities, specialized over certain areas of human life, or nature.  And in Egypt eventually, the real higher religion that the nobility already understood, was brought out by Akhenaten who said that all these deities are really, really one deity.  They're like special parts of the same deity.  So pantheism in an extent has always had this fight between both beliefs combined into one.  The ordinary people like to have special deities.  I'm in trouble in this way, therefore I need this deity to help me out, for drought or something. 


Patrick: Right.  Even in the Catholic Church, I grew up in the Catholic Church years ago, Alan Watt.  And they would have special kinds of saints to help you find something, or I don't know.  There were all these different kind of people that had specialized in helping you with a particular problem.


Alan: That's correct.  And they did take a lot of the old paganism into the Catholic Church because the early church wanted converts, and they had to relate to the people who knew paganism.  In fact, you'll find a lot of the Catholic saints really were just directly taken straight from paganism, and brought up to date for Christianity.


Patrick: Here's an email from Steve in South Carolina.  Please ask Alan Watt if the Club of Rome that he has mentioned has any connection with the Vatican, and how does the Vatican play out in the New World Order kind of One World Government.


Alan: Well, the Vatican, we have to remember in every major player's writings or books, or their biographies, they'll always mention at the top, I'm talking about world leaders and so on, the real movers and shakers, they always mention that religion is very important for controlling the public.  And they've mentioned the Catholic Church, and that they wouldn't just destroy the Catholic Church, they'd have to use it, because, why destroy something that already leads millions of people across the planet?  So you use it.  And we've seen the changes of the Catholic Church, that was a political, religious power for many, many centuries.  We must remember this.  And it was ruthless to its enemies, and it did have enemies.  It had enemies even in the Middle Ages, that tried to take over and replace the Catholic Church, the Cathars and Albigensians, the Bogomils.  They were all the same people with pagan ideas, that the people thought were eradicated.  They thought they'd died off a thousand years prior to that, but here they are, they turn up in Europe, and they actually had their secret societies that became the Rosicrucians, and then became Freemasonry as we know it today.


Patrick: What is your opinion about the Bible?  The origins of the Bible?  When it was written, who wrote it, and its significance in our culture?  Because it seems like it sure gets a lot of credibility wherever you go.


Alan: It's credibility, because within it, like all religions, they'll take in philosophies that have to make sense to people in some areas.  Everything that they want you into must make sense to bring you in, and then you find a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense but you're supposed to take it on faith.  And that's where the con is always.  When you can't understand something there's something else going on.  So they used to couch it under philosophies.  Now, in ancient times, definitely in the Middle Eastern areas, you had these, again, pagan societies.  And the idea was, whenever you were in trouble, you would call down a deity, but you had to go to a priest to call down a special deity that knew its name and how to bind it to use it for a particular purpose.


Patrick: You needed an intermediary kind of thing.


Alan: Yes.  You needed the guy who knew the formula.  He knew how to keep safe from the deities.  The whole idea with the genie in the bottle, out would come the genie, and the genie would try to outsmart you, so you had to get its name.  You find the same thing in the Old Testament.  There's lots of little clues in the Old Testament.  Now, the Old Testament really is there to give you a system which you don't question.  It simply tells you how it is.  In the Old Testament, if you understand it, even in Genesis people get confused.  They say, you know, there's two beginnings here.  There's man, and God creates man and woman, in his perfect image creates he them.  And then it's almost as though he forgot that, and then they go on to the creation of Adam and Eve.  Well, in the high of religion there is only two kinds of beings on the planet, there's man and there's animals, and Adam and Eve would be in amongst the animals.


Patrick: Amongst the animals?


Alan: Yeah.  And that's part, that's why you have two beginnings in Genesis.  So the clue is in the perfection.  God created man and woman, in his perfect image created he them. They were perfect.  In other words, they were like a complete clone of the deity with power.  Then it said, but there was no one to till the soil, so then he created Adam.


Patrick: Well, who was behind the whole biblical movement in the writing of it, and really pushing it over the years as being the book?


Alan: Well, everything is pushed, remember by power, money.  Money is what pushes every idea across the public.  Your whole culture now is dependent upon those who have the money and media, and they put money towards causes, charitable causes like religions, etc.  That's always been the way of it.  And if you understand, as I say, that power, to have power and maintain power, you must have control of the minds of the public, so you must give out a religion for all ages.  Even Gorbachev, Mikhail Gorbachev who runs one of the big movements towards environmentalism, and depopulation, and the happy planet idea, has said in his own books, one of them was called Towards a New Civilization.  He said, I am an atheist, he said, but, then he says, we, we, meaning the people involved in this global structure, we are creating a new world religion for the world, and it must be based on a form of Earth Worship.  Well, this is the whole greening idea the children in school are getting brainwashed into.  You're only part of the planet.  We're all one big whole combination idea.  This is what they're creating for the future, and it's backed by all the big bankers, all the philanthropic organizations, foundations.  Where the money is, is how your future is going to be, and that's what you're going to believe.


Patrick: But in general, the greening of the planet, I mean, do you consider that a negative thing if people are using more creative energy in?


Alan: Well, if you were to believe that that was their purpose.


Patrick: I see.


Alan: You understand, these guys have always been liars and they've never told the public the truth or the real reasons.  If you look at the Soviet idea, let's take the Soviet system.  Now, remember, collectivism is what they based it on.  Where a special elite at the top pretend to dish out the materials of production to the public, you know.  And all the public pretend to work for the state, and the state pretends to pay you.  You see, that's the whole idea of the big con.  The idealism is what grabs people off like a religion for a Utopia, but it's never what they claim it's going to be.  It's really a drab, dreary system, where you're terrified you're going to get hauled off to a gulag somewhere.  This never changes.


Patrick: It's gone on since the beginning of time, hasn't it?


Alan: Yes.  Now what they've always wanted at the top is the right, you see, that was the guise, of a small elite to hold not only the means of production, under the pretense of holding it for the world, but also the distribution of production.  That means everything that you need to live on.  Now, George Orwell said, when a group have the power to dish out what you need to survive, right, he says, you're now under tyranny.  And when they call it a privilege to have this, this food or whatever, you're under a tyranny.  And this is the same agenda under many names that they've tried down through the years, into this new society, the greening, we're all in it together idea.  We're all in this war together to save the world, and we're all going to be happy in some Utopia.  No, we're not going to be happy in some Utopia.  These guys are liars from the beginning.  The same bankers who've just ripped us off and got rewarded for doing so, are the same guys who put the money towards these philanthropic causes.


Patrick: And carbon is the enemy, and now we know from our education through Andrew Goss, Alan Watt, that Goldman Sachs is behind the whole Cap and Trade thing, and they are the people who will benefit from the Cap and Trade.


Alan: Yes, they are.  And not only that.  Lord Rothschild put forward, he's high in this big movement, I read the articles on the air from the British newspapers, he put forward the whole idea of the carbon, the personal carbon taxes.  Now, it's not only corporations or countries.  It's going to go right down to the personal level.


Patrick: Rothschild, he kicked off the carbon thing?


Alan: That's right.  You see, they've been planning this for about forty years.  We didn't even hear about it for the last couple of years.  And he said too that all these world carbon taxes will go through his bank, his family bank in Switzerland, isn't that wonderful.


Patrick: These guys are good, man.  And so, you think the carbon thing, that their goal is, is to get it down to, so they'll send Patrick a bill for whatever he's using. 


Alan: That's in the major media now, I read it on the air just the other night in fact.


Patrick: Yeah, I mean, there's actually places in the country, and I'm not sure what states, but I believe there's two or three, where they've got away with taxing people for collecting rain water. 


Alan: Oh, they've gone even further.  See, it all, the United Nations is the biggest front organization ever devised by the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and the Council on Foreign Relations.  They pushed it into existence, as a front, an embryo to bring this world together.  Every law that you have on the environment for the last forty or fifty years, right down to your plumbing, your septic, your house codes and all, all come from the United Nations to every country and it's signed into law without debate.


Patrick: So what is this story on the UN, Alan Watt, who put them together, and who controls the United Nations?


Alan:  Well, you have to go again to Carroll Quigley.  He's the man who really put it out for the first time to the public.  He wasn't just a Professor, he was an advisor to the Pentagon, and to the foreign department of state, to the high diplomatic offices and so on.  He was a man who chose Rhodes Scholars to be sent over to Britain for World Government, like Bill Clinton.  He chose him.  And he talked about the history of this group, from the Lord Milner Society, in Britain, they were all bankers, that became the Royal Institute for International Affairs.  It's a chartered, private organization, it rules the media.  Every major member of the media in every country is a member of it.  In the foreign countries, they call themselves the Council on Foreign Relations.  So, it's the same bunch.  They go back to the late 1800s.


Patrick: And I heard on the radio this morning that they're really getting feisty at the UN about this whole global warming thing, and you know, they want to really get something going, yeah boy. 


Alan: Oh yeah.  We have to run our lives, you see, from the experts.  Now many of the members of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, in fact, pretty well all of their members gave us our history for the whole twentieth century.  They wrote the books on histories and on science.  And so, guys like Lord Bertrand Russell, said they will train the public that they cannot think for themselves without the advice of an expert.  And that is the scientific society they have brought into existence.  We have scientists telling us all this kind of stuff.  But what we don't look into is say the panel on climate change at the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, they call it.  This is where all this climate change stuff is coming from.  They've banked and counted and put everything on this whole idea of climate change.  Unfortunately their warming hasn't gone on, and so now they're calling it climate change.  Well, the world's always had climate changes.  We used to call it the weather.


Patrick: Oh, I see.  So they had to change it because they got the timing wrong on the sunspots or whatever, that they had to change it from global warming to climate change. 


Alan: Well, now they've also come out, just to cover their bases, and said, well, it actually might cool within this warming period.  It might cool for the next twenty years, and then warm again.


Patrick: These guys are good, boy.  We're talking with Alan Watt,  Just a plethora of information that Mr. Watt works on tirelessly for many years, CDs, DVDs, and books and all kinds of stuff.  So if you're interested in learning more about these kinds of things, this is a great stop for you,  You know, Andrew Goss, our money mentor, Alan Watt, has mentioned Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley so often, I think it's time that I read that.  I mean, that sounds like it's quite a book. 


Alan: It really is.  It's the only book that's been put out, and he said the same thing.  There is a parallel government he said.  It's existed for sixty years he said.  It's run by very powerful, rich people.  They have a world agenda.  He lays out the agenda.  Then he tells you how they were achieving their goals in his day, and prior to his life, he goes through the reasons for the wars, who financed them, what their goals were to bring in this unified planet under their particular rule, under various guises, and we're living through the predictions, the plan, the plan, not just the predictions but the plan that they set up a long time ago.


Patrick: We're with Alan Watt here, on a Tuesday morning, and back just a second with the second half.


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Patrick: We're with Alan Watt this morning.  We're live, September 22nd, 2009.  His website is  Email is patrick@oneradionetwork.  A couple of more emails.  Let's get to this one.  This one is Robert.  Please ask Alan Watt what he knows about the formation of the FDA on the American Medical Association and allopathic medicine.  He said, I understand that the Rockefellers had something to do with it about a hundred years ago.  Does Alan Watt have any insight on that?  Because it's certainly a current thing to talk about, health care.


Alan: Yes.  I mean the whole allopathic idea was put out by the Rockefellers themselves.  Not just the Rockefellers, they had hundreds of people working full time, in a massive organization, even way back yonder.  And the idea was to bring in again, science as the new master in medicine.  As long as they controlled it, mind you.  And from that day to this day, all the major pharmaceutical companies have members from the Rockefeller foundation working full-time.  So, really all the pharmas across the world are really one big company under the rule.  And what the Rockefellers did was to standardize a particular education for doctors.  So they all get the same training.  They're basically fronts, whether they know it or not, for the pharma companies.  All they do is prescribe.  And also to eliminate.  The whole key to everything for taking over the world, in any sphere, money, medicine, all the sciences, agriculture, is monopoly.  You must have monopolization, and you must make sure that only your method is taught through the universities.  That's the key to it, to eliminate all competition, all alternatives, and you.  And eventually, sure enough, after a generation, two or three generations, if you were to mention any alternative to what's out there in the drug industry, even the average person will think you're crazy.  They've really been taught to believe that doctors are somehow holier than thou, and they walk on water.  Again, through propaganda, through fictional TV dramas, and stuff.  This is ongoing, even today.  There's more medical dramas out there and movies than anything.


Patrick: And the doctor kind of really knows his stuff because he's gone to medical school. 


Alan: He goes to medical school for science, you see.  This thing you cannot dispute, this science is taught.  And of course, as we know, when we go into the drug industry, it's a horror show.  It's an absolute horror show.  They've even had documentaries on the CBC here, that's like a BBC version for Canada, run by the government, where the big pharmas hire, they hire, they've always done this, they hire writers to write positive reports on all their drugs, and to sort of negate or downplay all the side effects.  And these are professional writers that do this all the time for them.


Patrick: Yes, and a lot of them have gotten caught over the last couple of years in, you know, rigging these tests and stuff.


Alan: They do it all the time with every particular drug.  Again too, remember what their long-term goal is.  It isn't just money and profit.  If you are into money and profit, you're always fearing and eliminating competition.  It's also the end product, where they've told us, that they want to bring into this world what they call world peace.  That was the front under communism too, they said, when they win, it will be terminated, in other words, the termination of war will happen when there's world peace.  World peace meant the absence of all competition or opposition. 


Patrick; Yeah, so without that, without a lot of dead and competition, then you have no reason to kill each other. 


Alan: Yes, and they talked about drugging the whole of society, if need be.  I mean, at one time, I can remember in my parent's day, people would think maybe three or four times about taking an aspirin, and then say, no, I won't, because people were suspicious of drugs.  They're not natural things for your body to start with.  But now, we go from the simple aspirin to much more complex drugs on a daily basis.


Patrick: So Alan, what was it, in the early 1900s when the Rockefellers brought this allopathic idea out?


Alan: Yes, it was.


Patrick: And they were behind it, they were behind this.


Alan: They were behind it, and we've got to understand, see the Rockefellers themselves, obviously, one or two people could not sit and plan all the different areas that they got into immediately.  You're talking really about an organization, and the Rockefellers themselves were a part of it, but they're more of a front, one or two people.  It's like being a President of the United States; you could never learn every department that you have underneath you in your whole term in office.  It's impossible.  There's so many departments.  It's the same with the Rockefellers. They have fingers in every pie, across the board in social life.  And old Rockefeller himself, he still concentrates mainly on the depopulation issue, but the rest of his foundation is into every aspect of life.  You're looking at an organization that has many tentacles, many fronts, and it's out for total domination of the planet.  There's no doubt about this whatsoever. 


Patrick: And are you concerned about the availability of alternatives.  Of course we've heard about this thing called Codex for years, and you know people are getting, they're getting hammered here and there.  They've always attacked MDs that are holistic in doing things.  But it doesn't seem to be, I don't know, they don't seem to be able to get away with much, Alan Watt, because there's so many people into alternative medicine.  Do you think there's so many that they're not going to be able to control it or not?


Alan: Oh, no.  These characters never give up.  And you should never relax for a minute, because whenever you think you've won something, they're already bringing it back under a different guise, or different direction.  There's no doubt, you see, everything in this world, in this New World Order, and this term is being used now by prime ministers openly at the G20, like Brown, he used it.  And it's a New World Order, where you'll be ordered from birth to death, to serve the world state.  That's the whole purpose of it, serving.  That's why Obama brought in service, mandatory voluntary service.  Canada's following suit, and so is Britain.  So, it's to be a world where you serve the world state for the good of society, as they like to couch it.  But it's also a world where you will not have a private business eventually.  That will go by the wayside too, like the Soviet system.  And all medicine will be controlled by a central world authority.  It has to be always central.  That's the whole key of what you used to call Communism, was centralization. 


Patrick: Kind of like a super FDA. 


Alan: Yes, and again, you see, you cannot have anybody outside the loop, doing their own thing in medicine, under their system.  So therefore, everything has to be regulated and authorized by the United Nations.  The World Health Organization at the United Nations was set up to do just this, to be the chief for all medical purposes.  And that's the key to it.


Patrick: Is that why WHO, World Health Organization is so out front on this whole swine flu thing? 


Alan: Yes.  And it's giving it incredible prominence for one thing.  So they're rising, they're putting it up to its proper stature.  It's rising up to its proper stature, as it was designed to do.  And they've said in their own world meetings, if you go back, that they were set up to be the world health authority that will guide the rest of the world under mandate.  So that's happening as we live.  And eventually, everything that you need, whether it's food or whatever, you'll have to go to a government agency.  When you want medicine, you'll have to go to a registered medical doctor, an approved doctor, for anything, and that includes vitamins.  They want to make sure that even vitamins you'll have to get a prescription for. 


Patrick: So folks, that gives a lot more weight to what we do here at One Radio Network, thinking that our ultimate goal is that we're not going to need anything, except the right food. You know, that's what we're working towards, because, we'll prepare for the best, and hope for the worst, and if a lot of stuff gets taken away, we won't need it, because we'll know, we'll have our body in such shape, that if we can grow the right foods, then we're going to be okay.  Here's an email from Heather, out your way, Alan Watt, in Montreal.  Hello, I just finished the book Dope Inc. by Linden LaRoush, which was well researched about the drug trade and how it was backed by Royalty, particularly Britain.  Can Alan comment on this?


Alan: Yes.  Drugs have always been used by the elite on the public, down through centuries.  So have poisons, as well, if they want to eliminate people too.  They often put stuff in the streams, etc, if they want to eliminate a certain part of the population.  Starvation was another, just cutting off the food supplies.  But drugs, definitely.  I mean, it's out in the open in the history books now, thanks to the work and the pushing of a lot of people, that the British Royalty, and a lot of the American, I call them Royalty or Aristocracy, such as those from Yale University, the Bushes in fact, and the Kerrys and these boys.  They all made millions of dollars off the drug trade when they were taking down China.  They took China down by importing lots of dope, opium, bales of opium, from India, and dumping it on the shores of China, addicting the populations to bring China down to its knees.  Which they did very successfully.  This is now all out in the history books for the first time, so it only took a hundred-odd years, a hundred and fifty years to get it in the history books.  George Orwell for instance, his name was Blair, he was a member of an intergenerational diplomatic family, for the British Crown, and his father, he said in his own biography, his father was the superintendent, or the main chutzpah, you might say, for the British Opium Company in Burma, and when that was brought up in Parliament in Britain, at the time, in the 1930s, by a guy, I think who was called Thompson, a member of Parliament, the public didn't know that Britain still had opium companies.  And when they investigated into it, all the members of the shareholders of the company, now they were using British armies to protect it and taxpayers' money for farmers and stuff, they didn't know that all the members were members of the Royalty and the cousins and so on, of all the lesser Royalty.  These were the only ones who were shareholders in this world corporation.


Patrick: Alan Watt, what do you think, the idea or the paradigm that we are not told about the real story in Afghanistan?  What's going on there?  Why, why all this interest in Afghanistan? 


Alan: It's partly because, out of all the areas out there, and the countries, Afghanistan has been a tribal society, many different tribes, with long standing traditions of a pecking order, you might say.  Everyone in their place.  Everyone owns their own area, that's it.  It will not fit into this New World Order very easily.  Very ancient traditions, ingrained culture, it's a very, very old culture.  But also it's strategic.  It's a very strategic place for them.  We've got to remember that Britain was the first country to try and take over that area, and they sent the armies in there, into the Khyber Pass, again for the opium fields.


Patrick: And when was that?


Alan: They were in there in the 1800s.  And many countries have tried since then.  Now, under the Cold War farce, I call it the farce, because it was planned how long it would last, and how long even the Communist system would last before they changed the West.  And you find that the Soviets eventually went in there too, and were hammering them for years with the aid of the US, and once they finished, the US is in there hammering them.  So it doesn't matter which group you get to hammer the people, they want them down.  But the first thing that George Bush did once they got in there was to order the farmers to go back to growing poppies, because it was forbidden under the Taliban rule.  They'd banned poppy growing and opium.  So George Bush okayed it again, that was in all the major media at the time.  It's also strategic, geo-politically strategic for pipelines crossing their lands into other countries.  They have all these far reaching plans.


Patrick: Ah, you mean like oil coming from the Mid-East to China and places like that. 


Alan: Absolutely.  That's the main reason for it.


Patrick: Yeah.  And the one I, there's just so much out there about it, and I hesitate to go in there, because it's such a black hole, but give us your opinion, Alan Watt's opinion, the short story on what this whole Israeli thing is about, and how they seem to be at the center of so much of this, you know this war that is brewing and seems to be in our consciousness for the next few years. 


Alan: We have to go into, again, geo-politics.  Geo-politics is a goal that might take a hundred years to achieve your goal.  Britain was the master of geo-politics and strategy for taking countries down.  They spent a hundred years taking down India.  Getting all the different tribes, and supplying all the different tribes to fight each other, and then once they were war weary and broken up and destroyed, Britain basically took the whole country over.


Patrick: A hundred years.


Alan: Yeah, pretty well.  And that's how you work out how you take down societies, and then reorganize them, under your rule.  It's long-term strategy.  Now Zbigniew Brzezinski is a big key player in geo-politics, and up on youtube, and it's on my site too, you'll see him in the '70s, in Afghanistan for instance, and you'll hear him saying this, this is a holy war you're fighting against the Russians.  You see, it's a holy war, it's a jihad.  And now of course, he's out there with his geo-politics trying to take the Afghanis down, now that they've fought the Russians.  I mean, every country is used.  But Israel, they needed a place in the Middle East.  And it's interesting if you look into the history of it, because one of the overseers for Britain, the Lieutenant Governor or General as they call it, who's got the Royal Authority of the British crown, was Sir Ronald Storrs.  And he was in there in the 1930s.  He gives the history in his own book, it's called Orientations, of their goals for that region, and they were importing primarily Jewish people from Russia at that time, into Israel, in the 1930s.  Now, you've got to understand the British history, because they've kept Ireland fighting each other with Protestants and Catholics since the days of Queen Elizabeth the First.  That's beautiful geo-politics.  Divide and conquer, and you can always come in to restore the peace and conquer.


Patrick: Selling guns to both sides and all.


Alan: That's geo-politics.  Now, in Northern Ireland, what became Northern Ireland, Britain put in a lot of hard, hard Presbyterian, loyal to the crown groups, and that became Ulster in Northern Ireland.  And they've always been totally faithful to the British Crown against the Catholic Church, and against any foreign dominion as they call it.  They're completely loyal to the British Crown, regardless of what the Crown does.  And this man Storrs, in Israel said, the Lt. Governor, he said we are setting up an Ulster in the Middle East.  In other words, a perpetual thorn in the sides of everyone around them.  And that was his own words, in his own book. 


Patrick: It just kind of keeps the pot boiling.


Alan: It does.  Because they had to.  You see, these guys knew back then, they wanted to take a world over.  They wanted to take over the resources of the world, and that's what we're seeing today, it's all a resource war, as it gets put into fewer and fewer hands, the hands it was intended to get to, and it will all be dished out to us piecemeal, and it will be a privilege to get food eventually.  This is a war on the entire planet, long-range, geo-political, and there's no doubt about it.  You see, their main enemy, number one, and this was admitted by Aldous Huxley.  There's a good interview by Mike Wallace, going way back, with Huxley.  And Aldous Huxley was a big player, again descended from the Darwin/Sir Thomas Huxley crew.  His descendants are still going; Sir Crispin Tickell is in charge of the Optimum Population Trust for depopulating the planet.  Aldous Huxley says to Wallace, apart from his little statement, he says where a small minority can take over and control the world using sciences.  He also says that the main enemy of this world dominion, this global movement, has always been the Catholic Church.  He says, the Catholic Church, even though it's geo-political, it's also geo-political obviously, it was a world society, but even though it was a power structure as well, into politics, that was its main failing in a sense.  It went into too much politics and forgot the spiritual.  He said it was the only opposition at that time, in the fifties and sixties, to world collectivism or communism.  This is the guise that this rich men's group is going under, it's for the good of all, communism, collectivism.  He says, once that's gone, there's nothing to stop it.  Well, you see, that's already happened.  The Catholic Church was completely infiltrated.  It had been before that.  Malachi Martin wrote excellent books about the downfall of the Catholic Church.  He was a Jesuit priest at one time.  He also was an advisor to two Popes and one of the Cardinals in Rome.  And he said, in his last book, Windswept House, that now it was totally taken over by the societies as he called them, and he writes about it in that particular book.  So, the Catholic Church, although it's destroyed as an opposition force, is now to be used for a force for world peace; it's part of this whole world movement now.  It's a patsy, it's a pawn. 


Patrick: We're with Alan Watt here on a Tuesday morning, September 22nd.  888-663-6386.  Email,  Well, Landell with the whole financial stuff, we, as you know, Alan Watt, stories circle the internet daily about the financial crash that's coming, and how China and people are dumping dollars, etc.  And our man, Andrew Goss suggests that he believes this kind of talk is merely a smokescreen and that these people really are all kind of working together for one goal, and China knows exactly what it's doing.  And if you actually look at the numbers, they have not decreased their purchasing of treasuries at all.  They're actually using treasuries to buy stuff around the world, buy resources as collateral, and they, Andrew Goss argues that they know exactly what they're doing.  And if they wanted to let this thing crash, they could have let that long ago, 9/11.  Do you generally agree with that assumption, or do you think they are really fighting with each other, and this dollar is going to totally crash and burn?  What's your opinion?


Alan: There's no fighting with China whatsoever.  In fact, the Western bankers created modern China from its inception of modernization. 


Patrick: That's what Mr. Goss says, yes.


Alan: Yes.  And it was the Western powers again, through the United Nations and agreements, through the G-A-T-T, the GATT treaty, that every country was sold out for being producers, because it was decided back in the 1930s to set China up and make them the World Producer, the World Manufacturer.  Now, after World War II, in World War II they set up Japan to be the ones who would hold the debt for the U.S.  That was arranged by the big bankers. 


Patrick: What do you mean, hold the debt, Alan?


Alan: Well, they would buy the bonds. 


Patrick: They would be the one buying the treasuries.


Alan: Yes.  So they were set up under the plan they'd devised during World War II for a post-war Japan, and they said that they'd set them up as the manufacturer of all technology, mainly electronics at that time. 


Patrick: So that was their bonus for having this war with us.


Alan: That was a payoff to an extent, but they always make sure they have a purpose for the country they're going to use and then take down, and then build up again in a different area.  Now China was totally financed by the West, into its modernization status.  You see, China, remember the United Nations has said that China is the model state for the world.  In other words, we've all to follow China, on it's one child per family stuff.  It's still a Communist government.  There's no democracy there.  You do what you're told by the authorities there, and that's it.  So it is the model state for us all to follow.  It was created by the Western banking powers.  China didn't come up and pull itself up by the boot straps and say we're going to be a modern industrial country.  It took the GATT treaty, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs, where every manufacturer in the Western hemisphere was pretty well forced to go over to China, because once they'd started to build in China, manufacture in China, and other companies had already gone over there, you couldn't compete with them.  So you had to move there.  And even the clothing manufacturers all moved there too eventually.  That was all done by our own politicians meeting at the top, and signing these deals into law, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs.  And not only that by the way.  The average American and Canadian doesn't even know and the whole European community don't know that we paid for every factory that was moved over to China.  We paid for their retooling, their setting up in China, through our tax money.  We guaranteed to pay off any profits that they would lose during that set-up period for up to ten years.  That was all done by what we thought was our politicians.  Well, we've been under totalitarianism for a long, long time. 


Patrick: So, they are all in it together. 


Alan: Absolutely.  There is no such thing as democracy.  In fact, in the Club of Rome, they said, we have to be post-democratic.  It's too untidy.  Well, guess what?  We've never had democracy. 


Patrick: How does India fit into all of this?


Alan: India, again, you have to look at the big boys and what they say.  Now, they have technocrats, as Quigley called them, the ones who have more power than any politician, that do the real work behind the scenes and that's their payoff.  They're well-rewarded.  They know they have the real power to get things done in the parallel government.  Now, Brzezinski talked about them.  So did Kissinger.  They talked about the up-and-coming emerging countries.  And they said Brazil was one, and then another one was India.  And we were all scratching our heads, saying, well, what's happening in these countries?  Well, see, it's because we don't know the big plans that are made for these countries.  There is not a country in this world that can bring itself up by the boot straps.  It cannot happen.  It takes massive injection of money, via the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, to make anything happen.  And that's what they've done with these countries.  They have big goals for the whole of Latin America, that's why the U.S. has been pounding them for forty-odd years, to make sure that they get the right people in to bring in the new United Americas structure.  The European Union was the first union.  The next union was to be the Union of the Americas.  And then the Pacific Region Conglomerate, as well, including Australia, that's getting lumped in with China, right now, as we speak.  Karl Marx wrote about this back in the 1840s.  He said there will be a United Europe, with a government subservient to a World Body.  A United Americas will follow it, subservient to a World Body.  And then a Pacific Rim Region, subservient to the World Body.  It's all going according to plan.  A very old plan.  Well publicized in their own books, actually.  It's just that the general public are kept spinning by the media.  That's the job of the middle man.  The media means the middle. 


Patrick: Keeping their eyes off of the ball, of what's really going on.


Alan: Absolutely.


Patrick: Or whatever they can come up with.  So, then you see a Canada, US, Mexico partnership somewhere in our future?


Alan: Oh, it's here.  In Canadian television, the CBC as I say is the BBC version for Canada.  It's the same format.  It's run by the government.  When they did the first open signing for the NAFTA, for the integration for the Americas, that was publicized on television here.  All they had in the US papers was the Three Amigos meet in Waco, Texas to sign an agreement, the two presidents and the prime minister.  But here, they actually went deeper into it, and they showed you some of the questions of the reporters to the Three Amigos.  And they were asked, we've watched Europe integrate together under a common government, is that what's happening here?  And then they kafuffled around it, and then the reporter came on to tell you what they'd said afterward.  Yes, he says, that is the goal and it has to be this way.  The reporter was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.  That is their goal.


Patrick: So, does that ultimately mean lower wages, in general?


Alan: Yes.


Patrick: In general, lower wages, because you just kind of lower the standard of living?


Alan: That's what the whole greening thing is about.  You're seeing your standard of living getting reduced now, under the guise of saving the world, less carbon output and so on.  You're going to see a flattened society, a collectivist society across the world, and no middle class by the way.  They've said that in all their writings.  And the NAFTA agreement has been signed every year; they meet to sign it to integrate it further.  This is what they did with Europe.  They called it creating closer ties, until, lo and behold, you're suddenly under a New Parliament.  That's happening right now.  The last signature for the total integration is to be done next year, 2010.


Patrick: So, I'm curious.  As much as you know, and researched this, just amazing, the knowledge that you carry around, and the information.  Why then do you choose to live in Canada, and will you stay there?


Alan: I don't know where I'll stay.  Canada was the handiest place for me, first of all, to get out of a collectivist Britain.  Britain was already utterly Socialist.  It didn't matter what so-called party was in power.  It had been socialist from the days of George Orwell in the '40s.


Patrick: They're truly going through it now, aren't they?


Alan: Oh, you wouldn't believe how it truly is.  It's a collectivist society.  The government is in charge of everything.  Every agency that was a service, and that's the key to collectivism, Lenin said this.  He says, we'll create all these services.  Heath service, child care services, etc.  They all become authorities in the end.  And that's what you have now.  You're run by authorities from every angle.


Patrick: So, what do you think, in closing, what do you think this health care thing, the real story is about this?


Alan: Health care will go the way of even the sci-fis that they brought out to show us what would happen in the future.  Health care is to go into a mandatory system, where you will be weighed like an animal, I'm not kidding, it's been in the newspapers, they want to actually weigh everybody, under the guise of the war on obesity that comes from the United Nations.


Patrick: There's going to be a war on fat now, right?


Alan: War on fat, and it'll be height.  IQ is also coming into it now, to the old eugenics plan.  They want to test everyone's IQ.  They'll actually want, already they're aborting children under the possibility that there could be inherited traits and defects.  Now they're stepping it up to, well it might even have allergies or asthma, so let's just abort the child.  Well, the next step, according to the American Psychological Association, the old eugenics plan, well, it might have criminal tendencies.  This is where they're going.  It's a creeping, incremental thing, but they're really getting their way, and mums are listening to them, because we've all been taught to listen to the scientists, the experts you see.  And you don't realize that you're on a total eugenics path, written about and look into the Eugenics Societies of America, run by the Rockefellers.  They actually had mandatory abortion in a lot of the US states, right up until the 1970s, and the public don't even know this.


Patrick: And so a lot of folks are concerned about the whole combining of the records, electronic to be all part of this new health care thing, or whatever comes out.


Alan: Absolutely.  If you're going to have cattle, you see, we're cattle, if you're going to have cattle and own the herd, you've got to make sure that they're the kind of breed that you want and health that you want.  Certain weight, certain height, IQ, not too bright, you know, that's what you're after.


Patrick: Got to tag them too, so you know where they are.


Alan: You've got to tag them, absolutely. 


Patrick: Put a chip in them so you know where they are.


Alan: Yes.


Patrick: Alan, you're always a joy to talk to, and always fun, and gets our little brain waves going there to think about some other things, and figure out a way how to protect ourselves as we move forward here.  Tell folks about what they'll find on your website, Cutting Through the Matrix.


Alan: They'll find the books I have for sale.  They're different from other books.  I show you the codings and stuff that's even interwoven in our language that's used by the big boys themselves, often openly in the newspapers, but we don't see it until you're taught to see it.  I go into, I've got hundreds of free audios for downloads, where I go into the histories of this kind of movement, and the big players behind it, down through the different generations to the present.  And I tell you where they're going, from their own writings.  I don't guess about things.  I use their own books and biographies.


Patrick: So you're constantly researching. 


Alan: Oh, constantly.


Patrick: Up in Canada, constant research.  This is your job, right?


Alan: That's it.


Patrick: Cutting Through the Matrix.  Alan Watt, thanks for your time sir, and we'll keep in touch with you.


Alan: Thanks for having me on.  It's been a pleasure.


Patrick: It's an honor, sir.  Mr. Alan Watt, and we do it from time to time, every few months or so, just to keep up with what his view of the world is.  And it's like, it's good to get everybody's different view of how they see things, and then we can sit back and have a cup of tea, and say, well, I wonder how that fits with me, or what my interpretation of the world, and then we get to make our own decision on how we're going to proceed here, on planet Earth.




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