April 16th, 2010
Alan Watt in Interview
with Helen Skopis on Athens International Radio 104.4 FM
discussing Greek financial crisis and IMF
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Helen: People in Greece and in other countries of the world are feeling uneasy about what's going on, especially with this global financial crisis. What do you read into it?
Alan: I personally think it's simply the next stage that was planned by those that set up and planned the Economic Union in the first place, because, if you go into the writings of John Maynard Keynes, who set up the structure for this kind of economy that we're in today, where it's basically debt, a debt-based economy, with nothing to back up money in itself, except more and more loans and selling off the loans for interest etc, he said that the next phase would be a structured world system, a global system, and that's where the IMF came into it. The IMF was eventually to come into its second phase, where it became the distributor of debt for initially the regions, which is now the European Union, the first part of it, and then through the whole world itself. This last financial crash we've had altogether, seems to be tied right into this whole elevation of the IMF into what it was originally set up to be in the first place, and unfortunately they've picked Greece as to be the example to the rest of the world. They're saying we can't go on like this, we need a global structure to distribute debt through the World Bank, and that countries are simply inept at handling their own finances anymore. This is the start of this, and they've picked Greece as the example.
Helen: What are they trying to accomplish, ultimately?
Alan: To take away a form of sovereignty over your own distribution of money, your own governmental management of money, and the IMF and World Bank will permanently, eventually permanently be in charge of distributing the wealth of the world to different regions as they call the nations. Now you're part of a region. And to them, it's more efficient. It's more power for their world system. It's a global system. And they're telling us already, we can't go on in this way, where countries are borrowing money, and spending money, and not taking care of the bookkeeping properly. The world bankers, remember, there's only a few world bankers, banking families that comprise the World Bank. These are the same banking families that lend to each nation at present, individually. If they can do it through a world banking system, that takes care of their problem. Less work for them. And every country will be forced eventually to sign on to this new system. They're also talking about bringing in of course, a new global currency, altogether, and that's also part of the structured system they're talking about. But as I say, you have to go into the writings in the 1940s and 1950s of the big players who set up the International Monetary Fund, and personally, this whole crash was planned, as far as I'm concerned. They keep saying that Greece cooked the books to get into the Economic Union. Now there's not a country in Europe that didn't cook the books. In fact, the general public don't even know what the books contain. So that's nonsense in itself. This is a move as I say, to push forward by using an example, or creating an example, that we can't go on this way anymore, and nations cannot be responsible for the kinds of money that they're borrowing and spending on their own people.
Helen: What period of past history does today's situation remind you of?
Alan: Oh, they've done this before. We've had crashes, many crashes before from the 1800s right through into the 1920s and 1930s. We were pulled out of it the last time simply by WWII. And a brief period of production, because of the factories produced during WWII, now they've been taken away, because they've decided to put most of them in China; we're on a service based economy. What's interesting about Greece too, is Greece is one of the biggest service-based economies, where nothing, very little is really produced internally. It's mainly imported and then distributed through different middlemen around the people, it's a service-based economy. However, we also know that at world meetings, with the World Bank, and the IMF, the big players have written themselves, about the need to bring in a Global System, and that countries really are obsolete. Countries are obsolete. Nations are obsolete. The old-fashioned way of dealing with your own country locally, is obsolete, and they want a centralized power to deal with all resources. That includes all the resources you have for instance in your country, and all the spin-offs from those particular resources. And we also have infighting going on. I don't know if it's really infighting, it's really clubs. The European Union is formed by internal clubs above those which most people see in the Union itself. And very wealthy clubs. There's a big play on, at the moment, for Dutch and German companies to take over even the tanker industry, the world tanker industry for carrying goods across the oceans. Greece is a big, still a big player in that, that has sort of sovereignty over its own affairs there. I think they're going for this kind of thing. This might even be part of the deal that they'll come to with Greece, to give up the rights to your natural resources to a great extent. Maybe completely even, and also to your abilities to keep the big tanker industries going. I know Maersk really wants to rule the seas, and the big banks in Germany are backing them to take over.
Helen: Are you optimistic about the future of humanity? Do you think that people will resist this?
Alan: I think that oh, definitely there will be, as we see already, they've expected trouble. NATO and the defence industries and the Department of Defence for Britain and NATO, and the US Defense Department, all these countries have issued, not just statements but 90-page reports on the coming riots, which they expect to happen. They published them before the crash, by the way, so they knew it was coming. And they simply say it's something we must go through to restructure this world into a more manageable expertly-run system, where people have no longer the privacy of doing their own bookkeeping in their own sovereign countries. That's obsolete now apparently. And during this period of austerity, as they're calling it, what it's really about is teaching we're a non-consumer society anymore, and at the same time, they're teaching us that the services that we provide through our own taxations, no longer go back on the people. Not much really did in most countries go back to the people. What they're really doing is taking away even the right to that. And most of the money will go for debt collection, and share, and what they call sharing the wealth of the world, which is a misnomer in itself.
Helen: Now your view is, they're teaching us, and they're teaching us quite a few times. What should we be teaching ourselves or our children?
Alan: What we should be teaching them is even the more recent histories of the set up of the World Bank. There's lots of writings put out there by those involved, as I say, John Maynard Keynes said that Bretton Woods Agreement, we went off gold standards, nothing to back the money, just borrow and sell off the debt, he said, this is Part I. He said, we in our lifetime will not see the Part II come in, he says, but that's our goal, this sort of Golden Age, where the elite would get the right to rule the world through experts, rather than leave it to countries in sovereign nations themselves. And it would also as I say, be a redistribution of wealth. Austerity, they're going to take us off the consumer type systems. And also take us down as far, as I say, getting something back from all the taxes that you pay into the system. It's to be a brand-new scientifically-designed society and post-democratic by the way, that's the term they used. Post-democratic, that term has been floated again, over and over by the Club of Rome, that is the premier advisor, as a think-tank for the United Nations, and the World Bank, and the IMF. They said, we're now in a post-democratic system. So really, you're in a system which is run by experts, as they call themselves, and we can't go on living the way we used to live. They want regional and global structures set up. The European Union itself is only one part of the global structure. The NAFTA agreement and the integration of the Americas is a second one, and they also have been working since 1920 on the setting up of the Pacific Rim, the APAC countries. And that's what they've done already. China is to be the main country ruling over Australia, New Zealand, etc, etc. But everyone ultimately is to be under the authority of the United Nations. And through a period of chaos and restructuring, that's what they hope to eventually bring out of it. Their main problem right now is to manage the public perceptions, as we go through the vast changes which are planned.
Helen: Do you mind if I ask you a personal question?
Alan: Yeah. Yes.
Helen: You have come across as a person who finds what is considered as normal or acceptable by most as limiting. What have you been seeking?
Alan: What happens really, is when you break out of the simple stories we're given in the media, and what I could never figure out, even as a youngster. I could never figure out why the media would give you what was almost side-effects of events that were happening, rather than tell you the reasons behind them. They have brains. They have intellect. They have training. And yet, I could go into libraries as a youngster, and pick up books, from the United Nations, world meetings, global meetings, the Club of Rome and read their own writings, and then, suddenly everything makes sense as to why things are actually happening. At world meetings, they don't sit down and make wish lists, they literally plan the future, they sign agreements. They then present those agreements as laws to be signed by national countries. Your National countries sign them. We've been doing this since 1946, since they signed the treaty at San Francisco for the United Nations, and there's no debate in any Parliament. This is an astonishing system. We've really been post-democratic for a long time, and they've kept the illusion of democracy going in order to keep the people calm and working along quietly. And as I say, we experience the side effects of things and say, oh my, I guess we've got to accept this, and we've got to accept that. What can we do? But we're not told the real, long-term agenda, as we actually live through it.
Helen: I think people are feeling helpless.
Alan: That's the intention of it, it's to create an apathy. And they actually wrote about this, certain people that advocated this scientific system, and attended the world meetings, like Lord Bertrand Russell, and Julian Huxley, who worked at UNESCO, to bring in a world standardized educational system. And a common reality in other words. Julian Huxley said that we've got to create a form of apathy amongst the public. When the public are apathetic and feel helpless, they turn to those who have already the trained answers, basically they're trained to put the answers across to the public. And guide us along this path. They're actually guiding us, along a path to global governance, post-democratic as they say.
Helen: Do you think that the internet is helping in spreading the word, spreading this information that you're sharing with us now?
Alan: It is, and it isn't. Because, remember, the internet came out of the military-industrial complex. They were using this during the Cold War, and writers like Zbigniew Brzezinski foretold that it would come. He didn't mention the internet per se. He mentioned a system of communication which would have many purposes, but one of them was to collect data on every individual, because in a complete society where those who rule are in safety, everyone must be very predictable. And they also talked about the coming information wars, before we were given access to the internet. So, they set up their cyber teams in advance, with fantastic funding, thousands of them, to attract people in, especially the youngsters that was their target group. They were the ones who would grow up in this new changing or changed system, and accept it. And you can't compete with these big sites that mix a lot of different formulas together and aspects of life together, and guide them into a greening agenda, austerity again, mankind is simply not responsible, we're destroyers, we've got to leave it to experts. There's thousands of sites out there funded, again, through the big agencies that work for the government, and they do it full-time. So it's very difficult to find out what's truth and what is not. What I rely upon myself, are the big official, what are called foundational, non-governmental organizations. They're registered as charities. Some of them, like the Rockefeller, has divisions within this charity of thirty-odd trillion dollars to dispense, forming and guiding their own armies of NGOs, along this path we're on now. And they're all shouting austerity, austerity, cut-backs, non-consumer society, and expert guidance. That's their goal. And there's a thousand main ones of them, running our lives right now.
Helen: I'd like to thank you so much for joining us.
Alan: Thanks for having me on, and I wish us all good luck, because we're all going to need it.
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