March 26, 2008 (#93)
"CUTTING THROUGH THE MATRIX"
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Title Copyright Alan Watt March 26, 2008:
"ZIMBARDO EXPERIMENTED TO DRIVE MEN DEMENTED –
STANFORD UNIVERSITY PSYCHOLOGICAL DEPARTMENT'S
INVOLVEMENT IN ROLE PLAYING PREDICTABILITY
© Alan Watt March 26, 2008
Title & Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - March 26, 2008 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes and Callers' Comments)
"Code of Silence" by Bruce Springsteen
code of silence that we don't dare speak
There's a wall between us and a river so deep
And we keep pretending that there's nothing wrong
But there's a code of silence and it can't go on
Is the truth
so elusive, so elusive as you can see
that it ain't enough baby
To bridge the distance between you and me
There's a list of grievance 100 miles long
There's a code of silence and it can't go on
Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through the Matrix on Wednesday, the 26th of March 2008. Newcomers, who are always coming in, there's more and more people ask all of the right questions, I ask them to look into cuttingthroughthematrix.com and download as many of the previous shows as possible. Take your time listening through them and eventually you'll start to get a very, very big picture. Knowledge is scattered they say and it truly is, even when you discuss so many topics, you can't help but scatter it yourself. No one book will ever give you the whole truth of all of this deception that's been going on, the deception that we call reality. Also, look into alanwattsentientsentinel.eu for transcripts which you can download in the various tongues of Europe.
Now for those who look at my site, they'll see that they can buy some of the books I put up there for sale and DVDs and CDs. You should try and buy them because it helps me kick along here because that's the income that keeps all of this going. You can also donate and all the instructions are on the site on how to do it. Talking about the site, it's amazing the tricks that have been going on these last two weeks or so as this huge international operation to do with cyber warfare practicing worldwide goes on. I don't know if you know that every country is doing a joint exercise, including some of the big universities involved, as always, since they get grants from governments and institutes like the Rockefeller Foundation. They're all networking in a cyber war, supposedly to prevent terrorism, when in reality so many people are noticing that odd things are happening on sites and with their emails and on it goes. Sure enough, I've had someone into my sites, all of them, tinkering with little bits here and there over the last little while, so let's hope they have their fun and they get their jollies and pass on to more enlightened things and leave us all alone.
Not so much chance of that because the cyber war is the new field of warfare. They must always have so many fields of warfare going on at the same time to keep the young sons of the wealthy employed with their secret services. At least in this job they can sit on their jack duff (which is their gluteus maximus) and play their games on computer and get paid well for doing so, as they sip their brandy at their clubs afterwards. That's the real reality of secret services, at least the ones above all the small ones beneath them.
We are tonight going to talk about something I've discussed before in some detail and that is why people are so compliant with everything that's happening. No one in today's world can possibly plead ignorance that they don't know what's going to come up in the near future affecting them all. Back with more after these messages.
Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt and we're Cutting Through the Matrix, talking about how people obey authority. This is to follow-up on a previous one I've done and in the previous one I mentioned a movie made in Germany a couple of years ago, available in the Americas and Europe, and it's called "The Experiment." It's about how an experiment was set up in a university by a psychological department and they selected volunteers who were paid for two or three weeks and out of the volunteers they have some of them into prisoners, half into prison guards, putting them in a mock prison and observed how people become the roles they play. They become Mr. Uniform. They become Mr. Sadist or they become a groveling prisoner and this was based on reality studies, studies which had already been done, so try and get the movie if you can. It's well worth seeing. It's very factual. They follow the events that have happened each time this experiment has been done by those in control in different countries. And I say in control because these top professors are generally recruited and work for the CIA, MI6 and so on. The whole idea that the elite must understand why we behave so well when we're told to, what makes us tick and how quickly you'll adapt to new situations in a predictable, and that's the word, it's predictable fashion.
I'm going to talk about the original experiment that was done. It was a Stanford prison experiment. It says here:
"It was a psychological study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduates played the roles of both guards and prisoners and live in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building.
Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited "genuine" sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo alarmed at the increasingly abuse anti-social behavior from the subjects terminated the entire experiment early. Ethical concerns surrounding the famous experiment often draw comparisons to the Milgram experiment which was conducted in 1961 at Yale University by Stanley Milgram, Zimbardo's former college friend."
Alan: There's your connection between the two. The only connection they won't admit to is the CIA, but that's who was behind this.
"Tom Peters and Robert H. Waterman, Jr. wrote in 1981 that the Milgram experiment in the 1960s and the later Zimbardo Experiment were frightening in their implications about the danger which lurks in the darker side of human nature.
The Goals and Methods of the Experiment.
Zimbardo and his team intended to test the hypothesis that prison guards and convicts were self-electing of a certain disposition that would naturally lead to poor conditions. Participants were recruited via a newspaper ad and offered $15 a to participate in a two-week "prison simulation." Of the 75 respondents, Zimbardo and his team selected the 24 males whom they deemed to be the most psychologically stable and healthy."
Alan: Here they are doing a psychology test to get the most psychologically stable and healthy.
"These participants were predominantly white and middle-class. The "prison" itself was in the basement of Stanford's Jordan Hall, which had been converted into a mock jail. Mike Shank, an undergraduate research assistant was the "warden" and Zimbardo the "superintendent". Zimbardo set up a number of specific conditions on the participants which he hoped would promote disorientation, depersonalization and deindividuation."
Alan: Very, very important. Now remember, this is a microcosm of what can be done on an entire continent. In fact, an entire world if need be. Disorientation is very important. That can happen with crisis creation, real or imaginary, as long as you believe it. They become hysterical, disorientated from their daily routine and then it's followed by depersonalization as a mass movement. You have to move there on mass, move here et cetera, do what you told. You lose your ability to function and reason for yourself as an individual and in de-individuation, you start to break down all the compartments that keep you together as a complete being.
"Guards were given wooden batons and a khaki, military-style uniform that they had chosen at a local military surplus store. They were also given mirrored sunglasses to prevent eye contact."
Alan: It's eye contact. Again, it's to dehumanize any contact between the two beings, the two humans.
"Unlike the prisoners, the guards were to work in shifts and return home during off hours, though at times many would later volunteer for added duty without additional pay."
Alan: Very telling for those who became the guards would volunteer for extra time without pay. That's how quickly people bond into their roles and a little fraternity.
"Prisoners were to wear only intentionally ill-fitting muslin smocks without underwear and rubber thong sandals, which Zimbardo said would force them to adopt "unfamiliar body postures" and discomfort in order to further their sense of disorientation. They were referred to by assigned numbers instead of by name. These numbers were sewn onto their uniforms, and the prisoners were required to wear tight-fitting nylon pantyhose caps to simulate shaven heads similar to those of military basic training."
Alan: Very interesting you see. They use a lot of these techniques in the military.
"In addition, they wore a small chain around their ankles as a "constant reminder" of their imprisonment and oppression. The day before the experiment, guards attended a brief orientation meeting but were given no formal guidelines other than that no physical violence was permitted. They were told it was their responsibility to run the prison, and they could do so in any way they wished.
Zimbardo provided the following statements to the "guards" in the briefing: "You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me, and they'll have no privacy."
Alan: Very interesting, to make people believe that their life really had not meaning. They would be totally controlled by the system and those in authority.
"We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness. That is, in this situation we'll have all the power and they'll have none."
Alan: This was also on a Stanford Prison Study video, quoted in Haslam & Reicher(it's a book), 2003.
"The participants who had been chosen to play the part of prisoners were told simply to wait in their homes to be "called" on the day the experiment began. Without any other warning, they were "charged" with armed robbery and arrested by the actual Palo Alto police department, who cooperated in this part of the experiment. The prisoners were put through a full booking procedure by the police, including fingerprinting, having their mug shots taken, and information regarding their Miranda rights. They were transported to the mock prison where they were strip-searched, deloused, and given their new identities.
The experiment quickly grew out of hand. Prisoners suffered — and accepted — sadistic and humiliating treatment from the guards. The high level of stress progressively led them from rebellion to inhibition. By experiment's end, many showed severe emotional disturbances. After a relatively uneventful first day, a riot broke out on the second day. The guards volunteered to work extra hours and worked together to break the prisoner revolt, attacking the prisoners with fire extinguishers without supervision from the research staff."
Alan: So they become innovative. That's part of it as they adapt to their roles.
"Prisoner counts, initially devised for the prisoners to learn their identity numbers, degenerated to hour-long ordeals where guards tormented the prisoners and imposed physical punishments, including long bouts of forced exercise. The prison became dirty and inhospitable; bathroom rights became privileges…"
Alan: That again is very important. Everything becomes a privilege.
"…which could be, and frequently were, denied. Some prisoners were forced to clean toilets with bare hands. Mattresses were removed from the "bad" cell block and the prisoners forced to sleep naked on the concrete floor. Moreover, prisoners endured forced nudity and even sexual humiliation. Zimbardo cited his own absorption in the experiment he guided, and in which he actively participated as Prison Superintendent. On the fourth day, he and the guards reacted to an escape rumor by attempting to move the entire experiment to a real, unused cell block at the local police station, because it was more secure. The police department refused, citing insurance liability concerns; Zimbardo recalls his anger and disgust with the lack of co-operation, between his and the police's jails. As the experiment proceeded, several guards became progressively sadistic. Experimenters said that approximately one-third of the guards exhibited genuine sadistic tendencies. Interestingly, most of the guards were upset when the experiment concluded early."
Alan: Isn't that interesting too?
"Zimbardo argued that the prisoner participants had internalized their roles, based on the fact that some had stated that they would accept parole even with the attached condition of forfeiting all of their experiment-participation pay. Yet, when their parole applications were all denied, none of the prisoner participants quit the experiment."
Alan: Back with more after these messages. Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt back with Cutting Through the Matrix and continuing with this little article on an experiment. One of many done across the world along the same lines to find out how people fall into roles quickly and how they obey orders and how they can be dehumanized in the process and how sadistic tendencies appear; but even talking about the prisoners, those who had volunteered, remember. Remember, this was a voluntary thing for this particular experiment. When they were on parole and the ability to get out and leave the experiment was given to them, none of them took it – even though the conditions were worsening in the experiment itself. They'd bonded in the role of the prisoners.
"Zimbardo argued they had no reason for continued participation in the experiment after having lost all monetary compensation, yet they did, because they had internalised the prisoner identity…"
Alan: That the victim again you see.
"…they thought themselves prisoners, hence, they stayed. A replacement prisoner was introduced; Prisoner No. 416, horrified at the guards' treatment of the other prisoners, went on a hunger strike in an attempt to force his release. Instead, he was forced into a small closet for three hours of solitary confinement while forced to hold the meal he refused to eat. The other prisoners perceived…"
Alan: This is an interesting part too.
"The other prisoners perceived Prisoner 416 as a troublemaker. To exploit this feeling, the guards offered the prisoners a choice: Either the prisoners could give up their blankets, or No. 416 would be kept in overnight solitary confinement. All but one of the prisoners chose to keep his blanket."
Alan: Here's how they could even divide amongst the people who are getting a hard time of it. Divide and conquer, because within that little statement there is part of the Delphi Technique. Here's a prisoner who goes on hunger strike to force his release and the other prisoners see him as a troublemaker. That's what happens at these meetings when someone with pertinent questions stands up to ask them. The do-gooders in the front row will hush them down and say, "be quiet, you're disturbing this meeting. Let the nice man or woman talk." That's how it works. We’re very predictable.
"Zimbardo concluded the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student he was then dating (and later married)…"
Alan: It must be quite the sadistic masochistic relationship.
"…objected to the appalling conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that of more than fifty outside persons who had seen the prison, Maslach was the only one who questioned its morality."
Alan: Interesting again. You see, the onlookers who are unaffected passed it by without question.
"After only six days, of a planned two weeks' duration…"
Alan: Six days all this happened in. That's how quick dynamics occur in these experiments.
"…the Stanford Prison experiment was shut down.
Conclusions: The Stanford experiment ended on August 20, 1971, only 6 days after it began instead of the 14 it was supposed to have lasted. The experiment's result has been argued to demonstrate the impressionability and obedience of people when provided with a legitimizing ideology and social and institutional support."
Alan: Now the reason I'm reading this for you is to let you know what's coming with all of these military and paramilitary organizations. These are internal armies that have been built up around the world to be let loose on the public in the not so distant future. They're given an ideology and their social institutional support. That's what backs these guys in the uniforms, the black Ninja outfits, and they're given the backing of authority. They've already been through the experiments of the shocks that were administered in the experiments. This is just another aspect of it.
"In psychology, the results of the experiment are said to support situational attributions of behavior rather than dispositional attribution. In other words, it seemed the situation caused the participants' behavior, rather than anything inherent in their individual personalities. In this way, it is compatible with the results of the also-famous Milgram experiment, in which ordinary people fulfilled orders to administer what appeared to be damaging electric shocks to a confederate of the experimenter. Shortly after the study had been completed, there were bloody revolts at both the San Quentin and Attica prison facilities, and Zimbardo reported his findings on the experiment to the U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary."
Alan: Here's criticism of the experiment.
"The experiment was widely criticized as being unethical…"
Alan: Well, that doesn't matter, does it?
"…and bordering on unscientific. Current ethical standards of psychology would not permit such a study to be conducted today."
Alan: What a lie. What a lie because our whole school system is being conducted with psychological conditioning in Pavlovian style indoctrination.
It goes on to say:
"The study would violate the American Psychological Associate Ethics Code, the Canadian Code of Conduct for Research Involving Humans…"
Alan: I guess that's why you're getting sprayed like bugs all the time.
"…and the Belmont Report. Critics including Erich Fromm challenged how readily the results of the experiment could be generalized. Fromm specifically writes about how the personality of an individual does in fact affect behavior when imprisoned (using historical examples from the Nazi concentration camps). This runs counter to the study's conclusion that the prison situation itself controls the individual's behavior."
Alan: I'll be back with more after these messages. Hi folks. Alan Watt back Cutting Through the Matrix, just going over some of the experiments. Many experiments are going on all the time and have been your whole life long, put out by the big boys for what's to come because it's all to do with what's to come. They don't do these little experiments just to pass the time. They want to know how people tick and especially they want to know how we all behave during this big worldwide crisis creation period, as they step up the crisis, real or imaginary. They want us to behave in a predictable fashion. They also want to know that the training that they're giving all of their multi-leveled troops and paramilitary organizations how they'll behave in those situations. They most also behave as predictable and they must be innovative too, meaning they're going to be sadistic towards the public.
However, it goes even further because it also affects bureaucracies, these faceless people, the ones who take your number. They never meet you. You're a number assigned to them and they take you off this list and on to that list and so on and so on; and they say that that's why the whole Natzi regime was so efficient when it came to eliminating people in large numbers. They're very efficient with numbers but it's because people become faceless. You're just numbers on pages to them. You’re not really human.
Another aspect of the dehumanization of the guards and the prisoners and the cops that will be facing up to the general public, it's also because these people themselves tend to go into these jobs. The ones who actually go in for a career and the sadistic part is already there. They like to see people cringe. It's an animalistic thing with some of these people and you give off a fear, which they get off on. It gives them their jollies and with the authority that they've been given when you look at all the laws that have been passed, remember what I said earlier, when backed by authority they go to the full extreme and out comes their sadistic tendencies. Many, many, many kinds of experiments have been done on the public, mainly through the big funded, well-funded universities funded by – look at the names of the associations that fund them, and believe you me, the CIA and MI6 have a finger in every pie. That's where the data goes back to, because what happens on the microcosm will work on the macrocosm, the whole world, and we must be predictable for total control.
You can find more of this on Wikipedia and other sources, other books put out on these experiments – rather boring books by psychology departments. I've read from some of them in the past, and for those who can hold their minds together past a single sentence or a phrase, wade through them and you'll be astounded at the conclusions you come to.
Now we’ll go to the phones and we've got Mark from Pennsylvania. Are you there, Mark?
Mark: I am, Alan. Are you there?
Alan: I am.
Mark: I might have some good news for you. The people most likely who are trying to hack into your website can be found at the following web address: www.scl.cc. I know it's not a dot com. It's a dot cc. People listening to this broadcast right now check that out. It will absolutely freak them out as to what they're doing to us with paid disinformation shills and hackers. With that said, I want to go on attention about you talking about people going down the rabbit hole, people really wanting to know the truth and I've experienced it first hand. I have yet to go to a family function and probably three or four months, everything from Christmas to just which is past Easter, because I refuse to get in a dialogue about what's happening on American Idol or who’s going to win their way to sports situation. The problem that I find and I think a lot of your callers who call in are finding, they're frustrated that they can't really talk to people like you and me. We listen to you but we have no one to talk to about these very serious issues and there's a website that I stumbled upon and with your permission I'd like to announce it. It's called talkshoe.com and if people like me who listen go there right now we're discussing right now what you're talking about. It's a very fascinating discussion. I know you don't like chat stuff but this is for people who know something is wrong, don't know quite what it is and they need help getting to the next level, so I really appreciate what you've done for me over the last nine months and if people can go there and we can talk about that would be fantastic.
Mark: Thanks, Alan.
Alan: Thanks for calling.
Alan: The problem with the sites again is they don't last too long because they're infiltrated very quickly. The government has lots of people in their employee. They have many, many teams on their cyber teams that are trained to whittle their way in to these rooms and then cause dissention; and before you know it, it's like this prison experiment. One group is fighting the other in no time at all. They're experts at creating divisions and so they don't last too long and people should be very, very careful of the plants they do put into them because you can't put a site up now without plants coming in in these talk shows. It's going to happen so I warn people not to give out their phones numbers and so on. Don't fall for the people that are professionally trained who will take you for a ride. Be very, very careful. This is very real, very real. It's happening all the time, but as long as anyone can last, good enough, but don't volunteer things. That's why I always suggest to people. Don't volunteer information.
Now we've got, it says here, Gravy from Nebraska.
Gravy: Hi, Mr. Watt. First of all, I'd like to say it's a true pleasure talking to you. I've been listening to you for a while and like the last caller, I've had a lot of problem weeding through the disinformation stuff and you're really one of the first people I've heard that tells you to go look it up yourself with the references and do all that, so I also want to thank you for that. I got basically a little laundry list here of stuff that I've been writing down over the last few weeks meaning to call you. First one is I'd like to let some of your other listeners know that a simple Google search advanced with [isle] type ODM-PDF. You type in a lot of the books that are hard to find or you can't buy anymore, like especially "The Next Million Years," you can find old pdf documents with all that stuff on it. The other one is the area of Nebraska that I live in it's interesting that a lot of people in this generation how quickly they weed out the information. The area I was in was hit heavily by the Franklin Cover-up, which I'm sure you're familiar with.
Gravy: In fact, I actually was as a child introduced to Peter Citron and told "he likes little boys" and didn't understand what it meant until I started reading about it and I even actually worked with Larry King's father for a while and until I was nearly 25 years old I had no idea what any of it was about. They just brushed it right all under the carpet. So I'd also like if it was possible – I remember a lot of things I've heard you say on the shows over the last few years because I've listened to most of them at this point. You've made the comment about Rumsfeld after 9/11 saying they have liquidized Prozac and Valium.
Gravy: And I've looked for some sort of all over the place for that actual speech and I was wondering if you would be able to post where you found that because I can't --
Alan: The only place that it could have been is either Global Television Canada, City TV or CBC, because that was the only three stations I got.
Gravy: Yes, I've looked for it and it doesn't look like they've got that up there anymore.
Alan: I'm sure it's been taken off by now because it's so telling a statement. It made so much sense to me. Immediately I thought my God they're actually doing it. As soon as he said it, I thought they're doing it, they've been doing it for quite some time. People forget the heavy spraying began almost daily in '98, long before 2001 came along, and I noticed the people then becoming rather hazy during the summer almost like dead flies with not much to bother them, even though there's a lot they should have been bothered about. I realized that when he made that statement I thought my God, the aerosolized Valium you see would kick in quickly. Fast-acting Prozac takes time to build up a tolerance in the bloodstream before it becomes effective, so one would be an immediate response. The other one would be a long-acting response and who knows by now, they might have some other kind of drug that's even more efficient. However, it makes perfect sense to bring people through massive changes with a murmur. You have to do something to sedate them and my memory also jumped back to all the books I'd read put out by the big boys talking about ways of sedating the public using pharmaceutical agents on them. Everybody including Huxley talked about methods like this being used, so it made perfect sense it was being used.
Gravy: I actually also remember a couple of days – I think it was Friday you read an article about certain financial institutions and credit agencies that were now scanning a list of names against government agencies that list names from the Office of Foreign Asset Control and I just wanted to also call in. That's actually what prompted me to call in in the first place when I heard that was because that's what I do for a living, I work for a large financial institution that I'm sure a lot of people would be familiar with. Basically all day long, 12 hours a day, I sit there, look at names, match them up against the list and if the things don't match I put dots on it and so that's really going on. I thought it might also be comforting to know that while I am doing all that and I'm objecting to it, at the same time I'm listening to your show the entire time and filling my head with good knowledge. That was about it and I really do appreciate you taking my call and appreciate the information that you put out there, it's great.
Alan: Well, you hang in there.
Gravy: All right, take care.
Alan: Bye now. Now I've got Drew from New York. Are you there, Drew?
Drew: Yes. Hi, Alan.
Alan: How you doing?
Drew: I'm doing well. Going back to your original article that you were reading earlier, very real. A friend of mine just got back from London on a flight and he was given the rubber glove treatment before they even put him through the metal detector and missed his flight with about half a dozen other people from the same flight. He told me the story and he didn't understand it and I said it's the Shape of Things to Come, you're being conditioned. He didn't really understand the concept of that, but it's very real.
Alan: It's real. It is a conditioning procedure.
Drew: Absolutely. It has nothing to do with safety and it reminds me – I'm sure you remember, but very few people probably remember today. Back in the '70's the whole story about Barry Sands, the IRA guy that starved himself in front of the world and I really believe at the time it was put out there as some kind of conditioning to watch how this person could be sadistically killed for no reason.But of course we forget all these things. It goes right down the memory hole.
Alan: We think we do but subconsciously we've been altered by it, even when it's announced on the media and they follow it through, because you're in a sense detached from it. You take note of it and you're being desensitized to more of it as it comes along throughout your life with other cases and so on.
Drew: Yes. And I thought it was interesting that you brought up Eric Fromm again. Of course, he's right out of the Frankfurt School.
Alan: That's right.
Drew: Absolutely and that guy is somebody you should watch out for.
Alan: Definitely. One of the big players and again associated with the CIA.
Drew: Also I just wanted to let you know and let your listeners know that your broadcasts with Jackie Patru and Sweet Liberty over the years, which I've listened to all of them, are truly amazing and anybody that's listening should really go back and listen to those broadcasts because I think for people to get an idea of what you're about and what you do – what you did with Jackie was truly like something that everybody should listen to.
Alan: Yes. It's up on the site. They can download them.
Drew: Well anyway, that's all I wanted to say, Alan. Thank you.
Alan: Thanks for calling. Now we've got Karen from Oregon there. Are you there, Karen?
Karen: Hi Alan. This is Karen. How are you?
Alan: I'm surviving this weather. I got snow yesterday, again, six inches.
Karen: Oh no. I'm in Portland and it's snowing here too.
Alan: I feel better now.
Karen: Okay. This is the first time I've called but I just want to thank you for all this information and insight that you give us. I appreciate all of it. I listen to it all the time, but I just have this one question and I know someone that belongs to actually a Baha'i. I don't know if you're familiar with that.
Alan: Yes I am.
Karen: Oh okay. And so I did some extra reading on that and just kind of have a question as to you know Israel is so anti any religion other than their own and there's actually – that is where the Baha'i headquarters is. It's right there in Haifa, Israel and from what I've heard the military protects them.
Alan: They have their own armed guards there too.I've met some of them that were recruited in Canada. It is a religion. It was set up to be a world religion. The religion is to bring all the other religions together by taking all the good bits as they call them. The good bits, the bits they can all compromise on, and leaving out all the bad bits, but then you compromise the fact that now you're all one in one faith and it's the only religion that the United Nations has authorized that it accepts.
Karen: Oh okay. I just thought it was very strange that they were able to – you know that because they're part of this world government. I mean that's what they promote.
Alan: That's right. The UN promotes it. The UN – it seems to be an atheistic or humanistic society, the United Nations, but they do have their own meditation room for their own members in the building itself and they brought in the jade stone, which they use in their little ceremonies there in the United Nations building. However, as far as an external or an exoteric religion goes, they authorize the Baha'i faith.
Karen: Oh okay. Well I thank you so much for letting me know that.
Alan: Thanks for calling.
Karen: All right, thank you.
Alan: Now I hear the music coming and we'll continue with the callers after the following messages. Hi folks. I'm Alan Watt and we're Cutting Through the Matrix and just to finish up on the last caller's question about the Baha'i faith, it's a faith that was found around the 1800's I think by some fellow from India with the purpose of creating this international brotherhood. It was a take off of Sikh religion because Sikhs are also a fraternity and one of their mandates was to create an international brotherhood when they set up, so this was an offshoot from that with the individual that begun the Baha'i faith. It's taken bits of all religions and stuck them all together so we'll all be one big happy family under our masters and that's the purpose of it.
Now we've got Will in Missouri. Are you there, Will? Hello, Will?
Will: Oh hi. It's Will in Philadelphia but that don't matter.
Alan: Oh, they got that wrong. Oh, okay.
Will: I love this show, Mr. Watt. I'm a long-time fan. I love your work. The point of my call was the aerosolized Valium and Prozac. I looked for that thoroughly and it's been scrubbed.
Alan: Yes, I'm sure it has been scrubbed because it's so blatant when you saw the trails.
Will: What I received at one point was the word panic, even though I didn't type it in you see. It was all over and it was actually Prozac, Prozac sales. Panic, panic, panic.
Alan: Very good.
Will: The royal elite has installed a coke sniffing, alcoholic C student who probably didn't even get one-third the popular vote and they must be laughing heartedly at us.
Alan: They're laughing. They're laughing and I remember when Georgie was knocking the French for not going with his first invasion policy and he said, well, the French, he says, "those guys don't even have a word for entrepreneur."
Will: Hey, I wanted for the longest time I wanted to get your take on as far as the Jesuit order and the Vatican, what role would you say they play in this New World Order?
Alan: The main role they have is intelligence gathering and liaison between different departments. A lot of their power and purpose and function was taken over, absorbed into the big intelligence services back in World War II. The whole Catholic Church is going down with the rest of the religions, as science is elevated to the top and governments have massive intelligence services worldwide all interconnected today. They're role has definitely gone down.
Will: You will find them in the Royal Institute and CFR and what have you.
Alan: You'll find the same characters in many different professions and religions too. Yes, you'll find them scattered all over the place.
Will: Now one final thing sir and I'll hang up. These Straussians, these neocons, who are the puppet masters of these ruthless nefarious creatures would you say?
Alan: The puppet masters are much, much wealthier people, very old families, much older than those ones, who literally have been running a banking system and a culture industry for every country in every era for thousands of years and they don't come out into the public view.
Will: So these neo-conservatives--
Alan: That's the end of the show for tonight, though. For Hamish and myself, up here in Ontario, Canada, it's good night and may your god or your gods go with you.
(Transcribed by Linda)